Object 477A looms around the corner, I feel as though that’d be the most devastatingly effective tank that could be implemented in War Thunder.
only if 152mm is an option, we could also get Obj195 and that one, yeah, but thats it and NATO could get CATTB, Leo-2-140 and Terminateur in response.
Im talking about regular 125 vs. 120
what relation a guy who had posted the photo has to the destroyed tank?
As far as I’ve been informed, the existing prototype wielded the 152mm.
As much as I like the CATTB, I’m not certain if it’d be equal to the Object 477A.
The Object 477A would be equipped with:
- 152mm main gun, capable of firing APFSDS and ATGM with 5km of range.
- Reload speed of around 4 seconds.
- 30mm coaxial cannon.
- Over 1 meter of composite hull armour.
- 1200-1500 horsepower engine for a vehicle weighing around 50 metric tons.
- Ammunition isolated from fighting compartment.
- Three crew total.
- Large composite armour blocks infront of the turret hatches and on the sides of the hull.
- Thermal sights for the gunner.
The M1 CATTB would no have a coaxial 30mm, it’s hull armour would be nearly identical to a standard M1A1 and it’s reload rate would ‘‘only’’ be around 5.5 seconds.
Neither of those would really be equal to the CATTB or Object 477A IMHO.
Oh look, more disinformation.
Ammo pens just fine in-game.
NATO says Soviet composite is performing correctly.
I trust NATO over you.
Hard to prove. But there is a a big jump in protection on few centimeters. And i suspect you were aiming too low. While he was aiming between the two ERA plates that caused volumetric shenanigans.
Thanks for proving overlapping plates cause issues on all tanks in-game, and why hovering over overlapping plates to use as “proof” is lying.
Overlapping plates has nothing to do with volumetric.
Does not excuse side ERA alone eating DM53/M829A2 or shrapnell dissipating autoloaders however.
Also i suspect you were aiming too low to intentionally make it seem that russian ERA is weaker then it actually is.
Honestly the fanboying over certain nations on WT makes me distrust anyone attempting to prove anything.
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ERA itself does not eat DM53.
Relikt + T-72B front composite correctly eats DM53 [T-80BVM and T-90M hull armor].
And at extreme angles, DM53 can even bounce off of K5 + T-72B front composite due to War Thunder not allowing “barely perforating” rounds to penetrate the hull, a universal “issue”. However, at closer ranges DM53 easily penetrations K5 + T-72B composite.
I might be forgetting things I intend for this post. If your future posts contain things I forgot, I will state agreement.
The IRL shot didn’t hit ERA thus the in-game shot should also avoid ERA.
Gaijin doesn’t fanboy over nations, as much as one of the owners loves Sweden, Sweden has not obtained DM53 for their top Leopard 2s and likely never will. They also have no under-BR’d tanks at this time.
And if you’re going to bring up my love of Type 10 from Japan… that won’t help your argument.
Let me give you some advice, block alvis. he just gas lights everyone untill he thinks hes won the argument.
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I am well aware.
huge W
Of course @Tea_And_Country comes in to tell people to block everyone criticizing Russian equipment.
@MagicalMeth
You do realize Tea and Country is lying to you?
He’s trying to defame everyone that criticizes Russian equipment.
It’s truly pathetic that he thinks the vast majority of War Thunder players are gaslighters.
Relikt currently protects 54mm “flat”. Are you sure that’s over-performing? [156 - 102]
Further evidence of this is your post. The hull-mounted ERA is 2x Relikt sandwiched between 2 alleged plates of 20mm HHA.
40.4mm
390 - 233 - 40.4 = 116.6. 116.6/2 Relikt blocks stacked on each other = 58.3mm flat protection per ERA block.
There’s a 323 as well, or -67, which is in-line with losing one ERA and a thicker backplate.
So with the hull ERA doing ~58mm for flat.
And the bags doing ~54mm for for “flat”.
Can you re-do your analysis with updated information?
Ru mbts are very mid at best especially top tier, if the map isn’t flat they sucks big time, Leopard 2 and Abrams are just overall better when you have better mobility, quicker reload and could lower your barrel anywhere you go. Spading the T-72B3A pissed me off so much that I had a plan to not ever touch it again.
I’m starting to think that armor isn’t that important when it comes to depression and reverse… even -11kph isn’t enough to run away if you’re out-of-breech, and you need to expose your whole tank and hope the enemy is either stupid to hit you in the most armor spot or gaijin magic happens, when you have to engage them over even a slightest hill.
It seems you’re right, gaijin didn’t even model 2nd later of Relict which according to empty area must be there?
326-238 (because armor is slightly angled in one-block area, thus its 238 and not 233), giving 88 effective protection per 1 block. Not far away from my 75mm estimate, and I presume Relict could have more explosive mass to shatter the shell than K-5, but unsure. Stacked relict gives 390mm protection on 233mm armor, 390-326=64. I don’t know how it works, but it works like that. Block alone is 88mm, stacked block is 88+64. 88+64+233=385. Not far from 389-390 Gaijin shows
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Check the red plate.
The red and light-blue are entirely separate plates.
And seeing as the side ERA is protecting 54mm, and 20mm HHA [20.2mm RHAe] is on top, it’s safe to assume that it’s under the plates as well of the same thickness except for the center more angled plates due to spacing constraints.
That “empty space” is likely the 2nd 20mm HHA plate and mounting hardware.
I believe blue plate is steel and red is armor, and Gaijin didn’t model Relict properly. Single-plate K-5 has same model, with steel plate and explosive filler:
