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@J_ackal @SemiPartician Please stay on topic, and if you can’t, take your disagreements to DM’s in order to keep the thread somewhat clean.
This also applies to everyone else.
Thank you.
so 4 days.
during what time? was that during an event? was it over the weekend?
there are so many variables that 4 days is just not enough. ive seen ppl make the point, which i think is true, that tank balancing shouldnt be based on player stats.
Noone ever seen Nozh era work properly. On the contrary there are famous cases of era exploding massively and destroying the Ukrainian tank itself. It’s a failed design
What??
Nozh worked here om UFP, no penetration, no setting off any other close ERA pieces.
Can you provide a single case of both cases you have described, as both of these seem like complete nonsense.
we have footage of the test… besides nozh doesnt have anywhere near enough explosives to destroy a tank. That would only happen in lightly armored things like btr or trucks.
No. It goes thru bc the upper plate in real life is 450KE. Not 530Ke like it is in game.
What ever hit it may have been mango, afaik thats the best that Ukraine has, and im pretty sure this was at the beginning of the war when that stuff was available. Since most of the pen values in game for apfsds are correct (except for at 30 degrees) its flat pen is only about ~460mm or like 580mm LOS pen at 68 degrees.
And didnt hit the hera. Because unlike that other guys post talking to you, the ukrainians dont have ofl f1 or what ever when he gave his example.
This guys sims are pretty good. There’s a few vids where he’s put his sims up against documented fire trials and they’re always within ~5% of the real world results.
Simulator kinda nuh uh since some mods still rejected it.
The only thing I can think of that would genuinely be causing that other than bad players is that Russia and America are both getting ludicrous amounts of mixed matchmaking.
Which would be fine if that were true. From my own experience, it isnt.
Cover up Пробитие возможно. (penetration is posible) and other russian words — how genius.
All three of those nations have better mobility (not going in reverse at 4kmh?), 2 of them have better firepower in terms of pen, and Britain, while having less pen, has a faster reload.
It’s pure copium to act like the T series isn’t insanely vulnerable to LFP shots.
LOL, the only copium being smoked here is you thinking anyone would take your side. Dont even bring britain into this as its not even comparable to any of the other nations mentioned, alongside italy. The T80 BVM doesnt require a reverse gear as all it has to do to win is hold w and fire as while on the move it is extremly hard to hit its weakpoints. The lower front plate against t72s IS a massive weak spot but for anything else its a suggestion as only T72s have the bad habbit of exploding fuel tanks. The other t series just have such low ammo detonation rates that it feels like all they die to is fuel explosions, ignoring the fact it took 8 shots to even set the fuel off…
T series tanks have always been powerfull (circa 2019) and you cant deny that, try to and youll be laughed directly to your face by almost anyone who has more than one nation at top tier.
Playing against Russia on the ground is a joke for anyone with a modicum of skill.
Sweden is the hold W country. Accept it or not, it really doesn’t matter. Having trouble defeating a T series is a skill issue pure and simple.
The LFP leads right to the ammo, and if you can’t seem to hit it, that’s entirely on you.
Maybe try playing one?
This statement indicates you’ve never played it. Would I be correct in that assessment?
Having the ability to reposition in a timely manner is crucial for any tank, the fact that the T-80BVM at least has a 11 km/h reverse makes it the best MBT option for the Russian tech tree at the moment.
The T-80BVM can’t just ‘‘Hold W’’ as this isn’t 2022. I’d say you’re welcome to test that out yourself, but as I said: I suspect you don’t even play top-tier Russia to begin with.
T-90M and T-80BVM get consistently killed/crippled via LFP penetrations as long as there is no significant downwards angle.
Again, this isn’t 2022 anymore, if you get penned in a T-80BVM there’s a good chance the turret goes flying.
The T-80BVM simply has nowhere near the survivability of a Strv 122.
They’ve had their ups and downs.
He doesn’t have top tier Russia.
And exactly, it’s not 2022. When I started playing ground, the BVM was busted. Now? Not so much. Between the second shot capability falling behind all other nations, the lack of mobility and ability to disengage, lack of gun depression, etc. They are not that great. Yet, people act as though the impenetrable turret and UFP make them broken, regardless the fact that many tanks at top tier have the same strengths.
Most people that say the T series are OP, I have noticed, have never touched the USSR ground tech tree.
I don’t really understand the complaints that the T-80BVM has strong turret armour.
(DM53 @ 500m)
The T-80B has one of the weakest turrets of any T-64/72/80/90 series tank and the BVM uses that as it’s basis. The areas not covered by Relikt are easily penetrated by virtually all high end APFSDS.
It’s also got very weak roof armour which results in opponents being able to breech/kill you before you can breech/kill them in return when you’re peeking hills.
I never mentioned sweden did i tho, and yes that is the hold w nation but russia has been the hold w nation for what… 3 to 4 years now. You literaly have no right to complain when its still an amazing nation with a diverse range of tanks, spaa, jets, props, etc, etc… What do you have to complain about? truly, i would love to know what you would deem as something so horrific that russia can no longer be considered one of the top 3 let alone top 2?
If you think your penning the t80bbm mantlet then your either mad or have the luck of a rabbit. Any movement, any movement at all, will cause your round to hit the era or even nick it meanign it will at most take out the brach. And then if you even pen it will only take out the breach, or if your lucky either the comander or gunner. Hull down they are basically impossible to kill if they know to wiggle their turret unless you have something like he or HESH (my beloved HESH will forever crush the skulls of my enemies, no matter if it takes 50 shots for it to actually proc on them).
This is all considering you even get a map long ranged enough to actually bother going hull down on, most maps are CQB where russia dominated untill only recently as most T series required at least 2 shots to kill, 1 to take out either the driver or gunner/loader, this meant no matter what theyll be able to get a shot off on you, and so 8 out of 10 times they wouldnt fire untill theyve been shot leading to them always getting the kill. Sweden has now taken the top spot for mbt but that would ignore all the other factors such as best spaa (Pantsir) Best IFC (Arguable and depends on who you ask but the BMP 3 is cracked, no doubt about that), best CAS (SU 25 with 60km missiles that go mach fuck)… Need i go on, its not just about MBT,s.
When was I complaining?
I was disagreeing with someone else who was stating that the TT Russian tanks are better in regards where, quite frankly, they are not. Having played them, and played against them, it’s safe to say the tanks are not what makes USSR a top 3 tech tree. They are situational, and not balanced/all-arounders.
Is that complaining, or a statement of opinion? No where did I say they need a buff. That would be unrealistic.
