A-7. we know it, Vought made it! However in war thunder all 3 version are EXTREMELY over Tiered compared to other options.
With the most recent edition of the F5A(G) placed at 11.0 BR… The A7K has never been in a worse spot. I 100% get that its an attacker and isnt meant to be played as a fighter, but if anything that should make its BR go down, since it struggles to do ANYTHING at 11.3.
This thing is on par with the AMX in the italian tech tree.The A7 it slower, turns worse, but it can take more cannons and (potentially) more bombs/rockets
All of the A7 series is incredibly over BR’ed. A7D has 2 aim9J and is at the same BR as the J35XS (which is a draken airframe and has 6!)
Gaijin, show these attackers some love.
Proposed BR changes:
A7D - 9.7 (2 Aim9J on a subsonic platform, essentially T-2 early but with countermesures rather then speed)
A7E - 10.0 (2 aim9G, same story. a sidegrade to the harrier with a better cannon)
A7K - 10.7 (2 aim9L. worse AMX but due to the missiles cant go any lower)
These 3 aircraft (with the E being in the Japan tree too) should get some love. Many other attackers recently went down in BR, and these are no bodies first pick.
I think these BR’s are a bit too low IMO, I think each of these suggestions should be bumped by .3. Even those BR options aren’t ideal, as sadly compression kinda ruins these attackers.
It’s not though. Having CMs isn’t something that should be increasing your BR very much, especially in early BRs where wow you flared an AIM-9B congratulations!
This A-7 is worse in air to air combat than existing planes that are already at the BR. Guided weapons don’t matter in arb.
“high power missiles” such as the Aim9J (found on the supersonic fighter T-2 and the harrier AV8S 9.7) and the Aim9G (found on the supersonic Jaguar GR1 and Harrier GR.3)
They are not exactly briming with power, ESPECIALLY when combined with a slow attacker chassis that is the A-7. You have the right mindset of decompression, but im almost CERTAIN even with them moving to 9.7, it will not even be slightly overpowered because its a brick!
Inadvertently the BR’s shown as suggested are the essentially the same ones they had for a brief two months before seperate BR’s were introduced (although I’m pretty sure the A-7D was 9.7 as well).
An yeah I’ve been pretty annoyed with how the F-5A(G) got a 11.0 BR as afterall the reasoning the A-7K was so high was due to the AIM-9L & lets be honest most players are going to bomb with the F-5 like most fighters at & around the BR, so it’s hilarious to see this dumptruck attacker at 11.3 still.
I had planned to type about it in the BR change thread after misreading the rules but hey they berely listened to suggestions anyway.
It’s good that more people are realizing the A-7 Corsair Battle Ratings in Air Realistic are getting more attention since they added the Thai A-7E Corsair for the Japanese tree.
Unlike the A-10 and Su-25. The A-7 despite having a higher overall top speed and being able to carry more bomb ordinance on its wings are quite literally just subsonic flying speed bleed bricks in the sky that cannot hope to do any kind of defensive maneuvers or air-to-air combat at all without losing so much airspeed to then become easy prey or kills in the Air RB furball meta.
Even the early AV-8/G.R. Harrier strike aircraft are capable of dogfighting better than the A-7s with thrust vectoring and they also can carry only 2 missiles most of the time.
Yes the Harrier, a plane missing around 2 G ITR and STR
takes around a minute longer to climb to X altitude than it should and a whole 30 seconds to long to accelerate to .9 Mach.
The Gr.3 gets a total of 60 CM but has an IR signature of an Imploding Super Nova as Gaijin has modeled that WAY off. Its so High throttling back and pre flaring+hard turn is usually not enough to evade an AIM9G yet alone anything else.
Its also missing tons of its IRL functions and weaponry.
So if anything else the Harriers should go down or get the Massive buffs they need.
The A7s are fine where they are.
Functioning flight model
Guided weapons and lots of other options
good missiles
lots of CMs
9.7/10.0, 10.0/10.3 and 10.7 would be the best BRs for them, because they are comparable to other planes around those BRs.
The A7D would be best at 10.0, because it is better than the harriers at 9.7.
The A7E would work at 10.0 or 10.3 because it is a minor upgrade to the D.
The A7K should be 10.7, because 11.3 is unreasonable. It would be in a similar spot to the AMX, Shar, or A-10.
That applies to the Av-8s as well.
We don’t need more free kill missiles at 9.3, on platforms that can’t be killed by missiles.
I can say the same thing to you about the harrier.
Just accept that the A7s are overtiered relative to other stuff with similar performance.
