Major Update "Spearhead" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

The onlys ones lacking a 14.3 by next update China and Sweden

Ground has been waiting for like 2 years for air to be balanced though. I think of all the updates in 2024-2025 the overwhelming majority was air focused already.

Israel forgotten as usual, just like how they are forgotten by Gaijin.

Unfortunately gaijin loves to power creep and ignore nations for air. When was the last time Sweden got a Swedish air vehicle lol?

Pretty sure it was the JA37Di a vehicle we already had in the TT the JA37D

I must be super stupid…

@Smin1080p_WT
Sorry for ghost-pinging you with the previous reply, but I think pinging you here is more suitable;
Is it possible to share what is meant with “conflicting information”?
Is it refering to the 3 brochures (2006, 2004, 1998) all listing different combat weights?
And is the evidence indicating the 35t figure to not apply to the ingame-variant thus currently evaluated as insufficient?

I’d gladly appreciate a response on this matter, as it’d greatly help with finding additional sources to resolve the issue.

CV 90120 / 1998 variant (Old turret & hull)
~22.4t unloaded // 25t combat weight (see: bottom left) // 445kW Scania Dsl14

HÄGGLUNDS Brochure: CV 90120 (1998)




CV90120T / 2002 variant (new turret, possibly different hull, new engine)
26-28t combat weight // 450-500kW Scania Dl16

ALVIS HÄGGLUNDS Brochure: CV90120T (2002)

CV90120_ca_2002_p0
CV90120_ca_2002_p1


CV90120-T / 2006 variant (same turret, CV90 Mk III hull, new engine)
up to 35t combat weight // 600 kW engine (unspecified)
Note: ingame variant based on this brochure, p1 (bottom right) 1:1 identical image as 2002 brochure.

BAE SYSTEMS HÄGGLUNDS Brochure: CV90120-T (2006)



References indicating 35t mass not to apply to current ingame-variant/depiction;
Note: Pay attention to the publication-dates! (The brochure that lists 35t is from 2006)

Show additional references

[1] Jane’s Armour And Artillery, 2005-2006 → Although unreliable, Jane’s lists the 26-28t figure for the ingame CV90120-T variant.
Janes A&A 2005-2006 p0
Janes A&A 2005-2006 p127


[2] Jane’s International Defense Review (JIDR) - Volume 39, August 2006, page 17
Note: EUROSATORY 2006 (or 2005? idk) - Same year as brochure listing up to 35t mass.
Jane's IDR - Volume 39 - August 2006 p0
Jane's IDR - Volume 39 - August 2006 p17


[3] CV90120 during the 2007 MSPO EXPO
Note: Fitted with all the extra equipment while still listing the “up to 35t” figure

Additional Note: The vehicle-name featuring “T”, “-T” or neither doesnt make much of a difference, since “T” or “-T” literally just stands for “Tank”;
“CV90120Tank” / “CV90120-Tank”

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Wonder what model the Malaysian trial one is

Resume

Also bonus water experiment


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Smin specialy said not all nations might get it.
And honestly i doubt aesa efts, since their flight performance still goes strong

True, but that also means that ground shouldn’t have to wait forever for air.

Still waiting for the Type-10 with APS…

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True, but you never know with the snail

3 nations, Japan china and sweden

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Thought they shoved the F-2 to 14.3 my bad then

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4 technically, as Israel also has no 14.3 and no true EFT counterpart.

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Don’t they have a F15E equivalent at 14.3?

I hope Japan gets some unique airframes soon. Since most of the things in the TT are C&P. From Rank I to Rank VIII.

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F-15E and I are 14.0 and are also both easily worse overall than the EFT.

In fairness the F-15E does come close albeit barely so they arent too bad off.

Well closer than Sweden, China or Japan do anyhow.

Does one even exist outside of potential F-35

Definitely not the worst 14.0 but thats compression for ya