I’m gonna be honest with you, I don’t even think ROC should be in the China tree in the first place.
But this is the wrong thread for that, I am not going to elaborate.
the issues isnt the chinese community is the nationalist chinese community wich its pretty extremist, they dont get that getting 1 tank in 2 different tech trees pushes for 2 communities to get that 1 tank fixed, just check on the 2A7HU sharing the same damage model on the 2A7V lol
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China is kinda like france imo, they have so many prototypes and actual vehicles that they dont need a subtree. (France getting 3 was kinda dumb imo but whats done is done.)
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Is Luxembourg even represented?
Not really
Yeah, that would be a win-win I think.
I’m sure the players who are actually interested in Chinese technology would prefer to see the tech tree filled with indigenous options instead of M48s.
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Exactly. Its not a Benelux subtree just a mix of mostly copy-paste Dutch and Belgi… Belg… Belgish? Belgiumish? Not-French vehicles. Benelux is just a marketing scheme as far as I’m concered.
At this stage anyone in the player base has lost confidence to gaijin. A lot of bug reports are filed in with well researched contents and are not doing what they should do, while there are players who completely went into accelrationism and just asks for M1A2T and give up on fixing MBTs. The said group of people was also advocating to introduce a Thai VT-4.
And frankly honest there are a good deal of Chinese players who wants China to remain in this both not fun/balanced and unrealistic status. AFAIK China has been the only nation which a classified document was leaked to nerf it - someone used semi-classified docs to nerf the J-8F if I recall correctly, and it was not even correct. Most infuriating fact is that they are also very likely to praise gaijin, even for economy nerfs. This cant even be described as addicting.
UK receives its second subtree and they still can’t even confirm what the future subnation for Germany will be. It will not be Argentina, nor Holland. They also said that they had no more Swiss planes planned for Germany.
I’m tired of this situation, as a main German TT player, I feel extremely sorry for the German gaming community. We don’t deserve so much abuse.
Furthermore, like Argentino, they confirm that they do not even have plans for more of our vehicles in WT. Most of the Argentine aviation is clearly influenced by the German industry. Many of their aircraft would have filled gaps in the German TT. Many of us German players were hoping for a little love. Why not be clear about this matter once and for all? People want to spend money and time in the game, knowing what the hell they spend it on and we don’t want to put up with the permanent speculation with which they play and manipulate things.
The last German player to leave the TT, please turn off the light when leaving.
pretty understandable specially with china’s last counselor and the chaos, i remember the guy who “helped” make the type 10 model actually is the reason why the composite and the breach has more holes than a swiss cheese
Sub nation, not sub tree.
Gaijin’s issue reporting mechanism needs a good revamp. It is difficult to find evidence for most modern vehicles and some players take a lot of effort to gather them and present to Gaijin on a plate to get “not a bug” treatment. I am sure most of the times the players do a better research job than Gaijin especially for nations like China where most of the source materials are in Chinese. They should just pass any well prepared evidence to developers for consideration instead of stopping them.
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Wait, how was this announcement worded? It could simply mean “no current plans we’d like to share”, and not meant to deny the possibility forever
“Much like South African vehicles, Indian vehicles will be introduced into the British tree”
Look if they add my pucara then ill have a huge reason to come back to german air for playing, but right now i dont have the energy in me to play another phantom. At least for another week or two before the KWS comes out.
This is ridiculous.
They could have added the Austrian SK to Germany and the Tunisian SK to France, since they like colonialism so much (cough: india cough:)
They could have added the TH-301 instead of the TAM.
Nothing they say now makes sense, you Smin are acting as if what they said were “obvious from the beginning”, when in reality it seems that they are now changing plans.
It turns out that an entire community of German players are now “idiots” for not interpreting the situation correctly.
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South Africa was definitely more loved by gaijin when it came to adding a very cool and unique subtree. Then finland came in with like two 1.7 vehicles that were unique, then hungary sorta had it figured out with ground. Cool and very unique additions that add to the lacking brs and were good(minus the Csaba), then their air tree while copy paste managed to completely destroy the relevance of one nations air tree and take a ton of very good vehicles from russia. Then BeNeLux, G. I is very cool and the f16am is very strong and the 12.0 f16 is under Br’d. Honestly i didnt really feel like france needed new air additions like f16’s but okay gaijin.
Basically he said that there are no plans for Argentine vehicles currently (plans, it’s a future word). And seeing the treatment that was given to the pucará, I confirm that there will be no Argentine vehicles. I mean, you can expect them to tell you literally (they won’t) or you can hope for years like an idiot (I’m tired of that). He chose to turn the page.
Same thing my friend, it’s a shame. I’m tired of the snail’s treatment of the German community.
If you put a Tiger against an M4A1 it is clearly “lack of balance”
If you put an F-4 in front of an F-15C it is clearly “historical accuracy”
I’m sick of this.
Im not gonna lie though the whole f4 phantom thing does upset me but for two reasons, i get that germany is upset that they dont have a capable fighter but for an update but this isnt new. Sweden and Britain got basically nothing to fight against f16’s and mig 29’s for quite a few patches and they didnt complain as much as the german have about this. Im an avid hater of this type of shit and would like to see a compromise come like a stop gap f16 but here we are. All i can say is at least the KWS is getting better armament to fight against these 4th gen fighters so it gets to be a glorified missiles bus just like sweden and britain were. (Though Britain got more vehicles during this time which helped. Sweden got another viggen at 11.7 which btw doesnt fly great unless you’re in sim controls imo. Especially after the AOA was nerfed. Also the AJS 37 came in at 11.3 and was food. (Not gonna mention the tornado cause that bus had its own hell when it came to flying) These vehicles had to get shit on before getting into a better BR. Overall i get the frustration and im probably gonna go crazy trying to spade it alongside the fact that i think the KWS shouldve been in the game for a while now, but here we are. You can put up with the KWS for a patch or two just like Britain and sweden did.
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