Major Update “Seek & Destroy” — DEV Server Changelog (11.06.2024)

Hey

At the moment, the F-16 ADF is showing the nominal levels of balance at its BR. So there are no plans to give it better weaponry or anything that is going to drastically change its BR. The devs will monitor its situation after the major update and see how it performs.

The Italian tree will have 2 FOX-3 carriers in the form of the JAS-39C Gripen and the AV-8B which will have up to 4 AIM-120s on board. So the tree itself wont be at a disadvantage over others.

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@Smin1080p

It’s not a matter of giving it better armament; it’s about giving it its actual armament. Anyway, it’s a waste of time. I’m not making comparisons with others, but since you brought it up and can’t seem to have an objective discussion, no one is happy with a subsonic aircraft and a Hungarian plane. Also, the emphasis on the AV-8’s four missiles is misplaced—it’s not a gift or a new concept; it’s its real capacity. No one expects gifts, but at least a minimum of historical accuracy.

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Hello smin

Any updates regarding the JA37D getting its AIM120’s?

There are no changes currently on this front.

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@Smin1080p Will this be for the US AV-8B aswell or just the Italian one?

Both AV-8Bs currently.

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why even bother adding things like the Ja-37D then if your not going to give it its historical armament? The whole point of the 37D was to carry fox 3s…

For that matter the one of the reasons Italy ever procured the F-16ADF, was so they could have a plane capable of using fox 3s.

Throw in the Chinese F-16 MLU and YaK-141 into that pile as well for their own reasons.

Holding back planes and not giving them their historical suite of armaments for the sake of “Balance” especially when they are planes that are more capable of being moved around in BR with little to no issue is a very bad decision on gaijins part.

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OK, gaijin mod implemented AV-8B Plus carried 4 AIM-120 from USMC & Marina Militare Italiana

But I want gaijin implemented AIM-120A exchange with AIM-120B on AV-8B Plus before this major update to live server because AV-8B Plus not fired AIM-120A

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AIM-120A and B are functionally identical and will have no gameplay differences.

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Any update regarding AGM-65G getting added to the Swedish JAS-39C? I saw it was being considered by the devs and wondered if it will appear when the update hits live

that’s good, glad they got 4 instead of 2 that was promised at first

For clarification, seeing your explanation, us and Italian av8b plus will get 4 ammrams it had irl?

Hello! Speaking of missiles;

There’s great discontent when it comes to 12.7 and 13.0 fighters equipped with AIM-9M which, on the other hand, still use AIM-9L as stock, requiring a long grind till they unlock AIM-9M, when R-73-armed planes get R-73 right away as stock and Rank I mod.

Stock grind with 2x IRs is lacking enough already for 13.0 in a meta that will soon be dominated by Fox-3, so I would even dare to suggest allowing the selection of two Fox-3s as stock, but that’s another matter;

When it comes to stock IRs, have the developers considered giving AIM-9M-armed planes the missile as stock and Rank I mod, just in the same fashion as R-73-armed planes get them as stock and Rank I mod as well?

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If this is the case then why did you guys even add them? And why did you give them only to Britain?

@Smin1080p

Since the topic of the F-16 armament is being concluded in a disappointing manner, to provide at least a minimum of fairness to the mid-tier, the following can be considered. The post is regarding the Italian G.91 R/4, considering that the R3 in the German tech tree already has these configurations and that this can also be extended to the German premium R/4. The G.91 R/4, as documented in the attached manaul - page 1-21 figure 1-8 , had a wide range of armament configurations that are not currently represented in the game. Of particular relevance is the possibility of mounting four rocket launchers, a feature recently implemented for the G.91 R/3 as well and 4 250 lbs bombs.

It is important to note that the G.91 R/4 was equal to the R/3, with the main difference being in the onboard weapons: the R/4 was equipped with four machine guns instead of the two Defa cannons of the R/3.

To ensure a more authentic and historically accurate gaming experience,the armament configurations reported in the manaul should be introduced for the G.91 R/4 of the italian tech tree.

in particular the following configurations are missing:

A) 4X rocket launchers
B) 4X 250 BOMBS

I made also a report but no one is taking care, I have already pointed out the matter when the r/3 received 4xrockets pods last patch.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ay2RL7nDGtch

Britain only ever used the AIM-120B on the Sea Harrier and F.3. AIM-120A was never present. This was proved with primary documentation, thus B was introduced. Reports can be made for any other aircraft where this is also the case (That B was the only option and A was never mounted).

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Shouldn’t the F-4F KWS also get AIM-120B then? This primary document says only AIM-120B was used

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Some considerations are already underway in this area. Stay tuned to the news.

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Oh, that’s excelent news, thank you for the update, I will be looking forward to the news!

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As I said, reports can be made and the devs will investigate. As far as im aware one was already submitted for review for the F-4F.

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