Major Update "Ninth Wave" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

if you’re taking mig-29/su-27 reports right now…
can you forward this one?
flanker overperforming roll rate at speed
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6dkaqCc2VX9w

also su-30sm/mkm incorrect irst acm pattern
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QMWBDZb1qKq0
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Yes that’s correct.

My understanding is that’s not possible and it’s specific to the missile, is there anything that would lead you to believe what you said? Like something that states RVV-AE has lower launch limits on other aircraft? I haven’t even seen any sources on RVV-AE’s launch limits in the first place.

the fact that launch limit changes depending on what radar is used. Leads me to believe that launches must be WITHIN the gimbal limits of host radar, not that r-77 has no launch restrictions.
Yellow zone is permitted launch zones.
see how its 170 degrees for zhuk me
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then 120 degrees for zhuk ae
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I think you might have things mixed up. The R-77 can have no launch restrictions but have effective launch limitations based on radar gimbal limits. So basically the R-77 has no launch limitations and it is up to the radar to take advantage of whatever it can manage.

oh yeah that would make sense. But that still means you can’t be shooting past ±60 degrees on something like a su-27/j-11a, there should still be max launch limit for r-77. just that it depends on the plane that its on

MICA and R-77-1 manages this by having no launch limit, and letting it be up to the radar to take advantage of it.

You could but it’d have to be in hard lock STT and using track mem, similar to how the mirage or Rafale does it with mica atm.

the missile dosent care

it will go whereever the radar tells it to go

simple as that

okay yeah that makes sense, considering how track mem works in game compared to irl.

also track mem works like complete fantasy in game, but ig game conventions allow for it. I think it’s dumb but it is what it is

Like the radar can still transmit information to the missile even while in track memory outside of the radar gimbal limit.

Which makes 0 sense. Cause how is radar communicating outside of its gimbal limit (talking about after launch)

@Smin1080p_WT My sincerest apologies, but may I ask if the PL12A in the current dev server is in its finished state? Will its data still receive improvements? Its weight is still incorrectly listed as 198 kg, and there seems to be no difference in its propulsion compared to the PL12 (SD10a).

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Would love to see the sep v3 the us desperately needs it!

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im actually dumb as bricks why did I not think of this earlier
i’ve literally read older secondary sources that stated that r-77 has no launch limits imposed on itself other than the radar capabilities in secondary sources before and didn’t think of them until now

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You’re not dumb, you were gonna connect the dots at some point anyway. :))

the secondary source I was talking about (missile and plane biography from a bunch of old engineers from various russian military instututes and stuff)
says that missile targeting capability is ±180 degrees
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There’s still no French tank ?

I used to follow updates much more closely than I do now, but shouldn’t it be out soon? thought it would be this week or so, but I guess it’ll be next week? or are we expecting a friday release?

Tuesday-Thur.

Friday release would be… interesting as they wouldn’t be able to fix any possible bugs over the weekend

Lets not act like they would do that anyway lol

If my question would be answred :(

Any dev update?

not yet

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