Major Update "Ninth Wave" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

show me a single source for the Pl-10

My babies

Not pl-10 technically but for the export variant, 90 degree per second turning ability and ±80 seekerhead


Definitely superior to r-74m2 or 74m at least in terms of seekerhead capability
(-r-74m2 has ±60 degree seekerhead gimbal limit before launch, ±75 degrees after launch, and has ±90 degree launch capability thought through iog+datalink)
R-74m:

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R-74m2

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It needs the Digital TER-9A, not just any TER-9A. Regular TER-9A doesn’t have MIL-STD-1760 connectors
The digital one has a new module on the back with 3 large 1760 32-pin umbilicals to connect to the stores


The normal TER-9A just has basic 26 pin or 23 pin connectors for things like Hydra, located in front of the rear fairing. Where the holes are in the above Digital one
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The USAF opted for BRU-57 as a digital ejector rack for JDAM instead of putting JDAM on TER-9A. The USMC has a digital TER (BRU-70/A) with 1760 connections, but it’s only for JDAM carriage on Harrier and doesn’t use the aerodynamic fairings for F-16 carriage
So the status of digital TERs for F-16 is a bit unknown

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You should be comparing pl-15 to r-77m, and pl-10 to r-74m2.
R-77-1 and r-74m are early 2000s missiles

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Yeah I forgot 77M 74M2 exist during conversation.

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In todays dev server update the Su-24M got a ESM search mode for it’s radar.

Currently you can’t actually lock any targets but it does detect SPAA with radars. Also picking up some ships with radar too.

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No no, you already said it. PL-10 and PL-15 are superior to early 2000s missiles

wasnt today

already had it since friday

the su24 is generally unable to lock targets with its radar

Thats not the case.

Kizy says I should’ve compare those missiles to R-77M and R-74M2 because it would be more fair comparison which is true.

Only the Su-24?

Anyone who knows why gaijin nerfed the aim120d? I mean it literally was worse than aim120c5 before so why did they nerf it again?

also some helicopters

my guess is that everything with the MTI mode that can detect stationary targets has gotten ESM

we got no sources to counter it and People thought they’d get the R-77-1/Mica Killer

and they just cannot have this missile be good

I guarantee it’ll be the same for other Western missiles, Literally cannot wait for Meteor to be worse than all other MRAAMs

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amazing, the D now actually is worse than the C-5

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does the new F-16 get AIM-120A/B?

convenient that is only the SU-24 for fixed wing.

in a few years some western planes may get it too

remember how GMTI mode was added? only for the Su-39

to this day btw the only aircraft with a Functioning Radar pod

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Yeah, and passive ECM