There are also some changes to infantry, esp. infantry/quadcopter interactions, and this might be related to
anti-radiation missiles:
depending 💯
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America optimized missiles for medium-long range. The MICA, and the R77 at the very least were optimized for short to medium range.
Those missiles are also more recent (and this probably more refined aerodynamically) than the AIM120A/B. The C being aerodynamically a A/B but with smaller fins doesn’t help.
I have not seen any « acceptable » reports on any AIM120 for higher than the current 35G load.
Mechanically, a missile with lower G load and different range optimization won’t pull more than any of those missiles.
You can still argue that the AIM120 lacks in AOA, but there are also reports for other missiles lacking in the same department. For example the MICA is claimed to do 100º within the first second of launch (and you see, it’s a report with actual data which can be replicated in game. This is what you’d need for a report)
The main problem that hampers the AIM120 is the fact that notching and multipathing is relatively easy, meaning it’s easier to evade a long range missiles than a missile shot within 10km. And in these ranges the maneuverability is more important
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I think modelling dual plane manoeuvring would solve 99% of complaints, however it would bring 1000 more lol.
It would at least prevent missiles like the AIM-9L/M to miss shots which should be safe hits lol
nope becasue everyone would get dual plane
so every missile will still be substantially better than the amraam
that’s the point. But also, every missile would be much harder to avoid close range
It would at least reduce the ability to defeat the AMRAAM kinetically. Currently you can defeat it with simple maneuvering during its whole flight envelope, no chaff or notching needed.
all but the amraam becasue the amraam still has a pretty big guidance delay
same works against any other fox-3
at long ranges the amraam is one of the missiles that loses the least ammount of speed especially when manouvering
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Il not getting why dual plane maneuvering would make it harder to defeat the AMRAAM kinematically. Instinctively I’d say it’d be just as easy, if not more, to bleed it out of its energy, just like any fox 3 shot above 15-20km side/rear aspect
You can’t really dodge a R-77-1 or MICA closing in on you frontally below 5 km (the MICA not at all). The AIM-120 is easily defeatable at that range.
I meant shots inside the NEZ.
Might be skill issue, but to me, all fox 3* missiles fired within the NEZ are not evadable, even the AIM120C, without proper notching, because when it has like 2km to speed up, it’s still very deadly if doesn’t have to do a whole 90º HOBS turn
then maybe you should comunicate that in some way
the amraams whole flight envelope dosent stop at 5km
Yeah, my bad ^^
Inside 5-10 km it’s the most difficult. Closer or further away it’s easier, so I focussed on that short range.
The easiest way is to dip and pull up hard the moment it’s closer than 2 km as it overcorrects and then is defeated by its lackluster AoA and pull. Or fly a serpentine, same thing but horizontal instead of vertical.
Well… in a chase, duh. If you’re hot and then turn cold the NEZ is recalculated (though most of the time target is slightly outside the NEZ).
Well, I’ll have to try then. Don’t think I’ve ever managed to do that even in my rafale. Never actively tried to do it since I’ve always been under the belief that, if the missiles gets up to speed, it’s not evadable.
In this case, having dual plane might be more important for it (and the Aim7) than other fox 3s
That’s by bleeding it out of energy. I think what Kensai what’s hinting at was more like evading it while it still has lots of energy (like rolling an AIM7 in front aspect)
You can also fly a serpentine (horizontal fly to the left and then a hard curve to the right). At speed it’s even easier as its overcorrection and poor AoA and pull make it difficult for it to correct its overcorrection. But that only works for the AIM-120, you won’t be able to defeat a R-77, let alone a MICA (especially if its motor is still burning) as these pull way harder.
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Oh to be noticed
What are these modes for?