I didn’t say I want them in China all I said was pulling Thailand an well established subtree from Japan would not be a great idea especially when Japan needs them more, as for being neighbours they’d still be together under Japan just atm Singapore is floating around, they’d make a great sub for Israel but removing already announced subs from Japan and making a worse tree would defeat the purpose of what subs actually means
I think it might be coming to china… or maybe they can get fitted in to future korean TT. Israel can be with Jordan and Saudi.
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Israeli tech tree’s did not have any aesa radar above 13.0 while J15T with PL12A and AIM120D will come lol
The aircraft in game is a former CJ turned CM. The only difference between a CM and CJ is the avionics and systems integrated (such as avionics, radar, or RWR). They are different than a CCIP but the same line of thought.
CCIP was bringing all standard Block 50/52 up to similar standard as the CJ with JHMCS and GPS guided weaponry like JDAM. CCIP did not get SEAD capabilities. If you’re reading from the wiki which I’d assume you are based on your responses, the wording is weird and can be easily misunderstood.
POBIT (which the default skin is not a POBIT F-16 and is a CM instead) cannot do SEAD as the electronics and systems are not implemented to do so. They are not mission capable for Wild Weasel work without modification.
CCIP Block 50/52 is sometimes mislabeled as CM.
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HOWEVER a POBIT does get access to the Viper Electronic Warfare suite whereas the CM (unless something changed in the last 2 years) does not. It doesn’t get Anti-rad as part of POBIT that is not part of the program.
POBIT is Block 70/72 adjacent not equivalent.
POBIT has not been applied to F-16CJ/CM as they had a separate program as I mentioned above that added AESA among other things before POBIT was a thing.
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lower velocity air clings to the skin of the aircraft, unless it has an internal diverter (unlikely) it will injest lower velocity air into the engine
increasing stress on the blades of the engine (Irrelevant to WT) but importantly reducing the thrust of the engine, as it has a relative lower average intake velocity, compared to a diverted inlet,
Diverterless inlets should have greater channel loss than Diverted inlets from what i make of it, as the higher the velocity of intake (in most cases) the greater the thrust produced
in reality it should probably have less affect at lower speeds, as there will be less friction between the air and skin of the aircraft going into the inlet, keeping the average intake velocity closer to the real velocity of the aircraft
neither
nor do i think gaijin models this
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i hope this is just a forum bug, i’m certain i clicked reply to that comment
Jordan would be better off with the British since most of their ground are British made mods that could fill out the top quite nicely as for Saudi’s again they can be mostly British premiums for aircraft since most of their tech is British.
So far gaijin hasn’t stated any plans for Singapore to be with China last leak even the Chinese thought that was a bad idea.
The only logical place but we just have to wait and see
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Both of these nations should just be split up between trees.
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The PL-12A had identical stats to the PL-12 during the dev stream minus longer guidance duration which is concerning. Do they seriously think that a missile that is 15 kg or so heavier with a physically longer motor section and an advertised range of 120 km is identical to the PL-12 except for better batteries?
Yes
placeholder stats, when will people understand the stuff on the DEV server is unfinished
hm, I think he’s just baiting tbh impo
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I hope so, but you can never know honestly. I’ll report as much of it as I can when the dev server comes out.
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Part of me wants to say that it’s best to wait until the dev server for initial conclusions.
But yes, it’s very much possible that Gaijin believes this.
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they did not add the correctly stats I think
Unfortunately most information on the PL-12AE is from an AVIC social media post which was deleted… but we have range information from a defence expo at least.
Does anyone know if the pantsir 2 is before or after the buk
I think China is probably off limits after the controversy (Japan too, but they won’t need another subtree anyways). So it’s really only between existing and future nations.
I don’t think Singapore could make a techtree, even with other nations, simply because they couldn’t hold the majority of vehicles. With reworked subtrees we could have a nice techtree for them, but they will still make lineups with nations that have more options available.
Personall, I think Israel is the best choice, Korea could be another but the connection isn’t nearly as strong as it would be for Israel and I haven’t heard from Singaporean players about this before either so I’m hesitant.
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