It’s an official brochure by VSEL so it should be perfectly credible by gaijins standards
I’m yet to see any other weight values, the only place I can find 45 tonnes is from Military Today which is just a magazine
Ill bring it out of the Spoiler for this
your source here states 45 ton (also 36? but i assume thats braveheart due to the max range?)
and these for flavour
45 ton does seem to be the most stated number unfortunately
Forecast international isn’t a primary source I was just using it as an example there as I couldnt find anything else lol
Where is the second image from?
this one
I would argue that that source may be talking about the Braveheart, it lists the gun caliber as 39 OR 52, which would include the Braveheart and take into account the weight of the larger gun and other changes.
The source I used only states the 39 caliber gun, so it excludes the Braveheart and must be the weight of the variant ingame which has the 39 caliber gun.
I’m also not sure if Gunner counts as a primary source, is that from the British Army or Vickers themselves?
Not sure, i think in MOD it was said it was Primary, but I could be misremembering
Regardless this is a primary source, (from the army themselves, just web archived)
If i’m to continue discussing this it’d have to be tomorrow at some point, I’ve got to get some other stuff done that I’ve already put off a bit too long
(would also probably be worth taking this to a different thread like British Weapon Systems - Technical data and discussion - #5669 by Kobes-Kamov for that)
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No worries, there seems to be some conflicting information I guess, we will see what gaijin thinks
as always
we can only hope for it to be reduced, but i personally highly doubt it will be
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That source does state the top speed at 32mph which also contradicts our other primary sources from Vickers, I personally would take the direct manufacturers technical data instead, anyway you’re right we should move this to the dedicated thread when you’re free
Seekerdelay is correct.
But fin aoa, who knows (probably underperforming but it’s pure speculation)
Based on what I’ve heard, kinda.
The current seeker delay is only described for ejector launched AMRAAMs.
Anyways, here’s a post from yourself that has the source they seem to have used.
yeah, courtesy of flame himself though, it also mentions this
would this also apply to ejector only launches? idk
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anything interesting happen today?
and if what we got was the F16CM modernised how likely is it we will ever even get the POBIT itself at this point?
I’m seriously tired of the direction War Thunder is going.
First you added the Sukhoi Su-30SM2 without giving other nations a proper equivalent counterpart. That alone already tilted top-tier air battles. Then you followed it up with the Pantsir — again, with nothing comparable available in other tech trees. How is this supposed to be balanced?
It feels like every major update hands Russia another top-tier system that outperforms everything else, while other nations are left waiting for something that can even compete. This isn’t asymmetrical design — it’s just stacking advantages on one side.
Players grind for months or spend real money to reach top tier, only to be constantly outclassed by vehicles that have no equal elsewhere. That doesn’t create competition. It creates frustration and pushes people away.
At this point, whether intentional or not, it looks like blatant favoritism. If you’re going to introduce cutting-edge systems like the Su-30SM2 and Pantsir, then introduce proper counterparts at the same time. Stop releasing one-s
How is that eft aesa not a counter to the su30sm2 ?
I understand us lack top tier.
i get that the eurofighter can be considered a counter part but as a US main it sucks that it feels like we are always an update behind everyone. ever since the first f18’s we added it has been that way
rafale existed for a year before a counterpart existed in the aesa eurofighter and su-30sm2
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Well its maybe because no matter what you add to the us. They will not get the same level.
F15ex ? Good 16 missile.
Still trash radar scope. Not even close to captor mk2 or n035 ibris.
is that also what you are going to tell me abt the lack of accurate modeling of the 120’s its so blatant its hard to believe. and not to mention the fact that they just added another pantsir as if the regular one wasn’t enough not to mention the buk
yes the 120 need fixes.
but is playable with plane like aesa eft