Major Update "Ninth Wave" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

i seen them in hangar view, i deliberately don’t have them 'XD

There were some changes to the SEAD/Strategic Bombing targets:

New composite target sites, and changes to the existing S-75 sites:
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Tochka 's missile arm now sits upright by default, and the internals were reworked:

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AN/MPQ-53 is now animated, it can rotate horizontally:

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Nebo 55J6 is now animated, it can rotate around the horizontal ( three storey building jumpscare )

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5N64S " Big Bird " is now animated, it can rotate around the horizontal:

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5N63S " Flap Lid " had it 's internals reworked, but it isn’t animated yet:


S-300PS FINALLY has it 's internals !! Also, the missile siloes sit upright now:

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AN/TPS-43 is now animated, it rotates around the horizontal:

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M270 MLRS now has internals:


M752 launcher 's missile arm now sits upright, and it has an incomplete animated version that is currently not animated:

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Grad internals have been changed for the third or fourth time atp:


and finally

P-37 radar is now animated, rotates around horizontal:

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And yet, every other Fox 3 has magical HOBS, but not the AMRAAM. Interesting stuff

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Every other fox 3, being the fox 3 who all have much higher proven G loads, ranging from 40 to 50G (and with TVC for MICA) ? Who could have guessed that missiles that turn better than the AIM120, do in fact turn better than the AIM120 ?

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Yea cuz 3 G matters on the PL-12, or 5 for the Derby and others that have 40Gs.
It’s the seeker delay and fin AOA, which was alright for the first time on the Dev for the AIM-120A and B, and then it got butchered. Same for the C-5. But hey, it’s impossible that the Americans make good planes or missiles.

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If you’re reading this, say Thank You @gszabi99

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Thank You?

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There are also some changes to infantry, esp. infantry/quadcopter interactions, and this might be related to

anti-radiation missiles:
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depending 💯

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America optimized missiles for medium-long range. The MICA, and the R77 at the very least were optimized for short to medium range.
Those missiles are also more recent (and this probably more refined aerodynamically) than the AIM120A/B. The C being aerodynamically a A/B but with smaller fins doesn’t help.
I have not seen any « acceptable » reports on any AIM120 for higher than the current 35G load.
Mechanically, a missile with lower G load and different range optimization won’t pull more than any of those missiles.
You can still argue that the AIM120 lacks in AOA, but there are also reports for other missiles lacking in the same department. For example the MICA is claimed to do 100º within the first second of launch (and you see, it’s a report with actual data which can be replicated in game. This is what you’d need for a report)
The main problem that hampers the AIM120 is the fact that notching and multipathing is relatively easy, meaning it’s easier to evade a long range missiles than a missile shot within 10km. And in these ranges the maneuverability is more important

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I think modelling dual plane manoeuvring would solve 99% of complaints, however it would bring 1000 more lol.

It would at least prevent missiles like the AIM-9L/M to miss shots which should be safe hits lol

nope becasue everyone would get dual plane

so every missile will still be substantially better than the amraam

that’s the point. But also, every missile would be much harder to avoid close range

It would at least reduce the ability to defeat the AMRAAM kinetically. Currently you can defeat it with simple maneuvering during its whole flight envelope, no chaff or notching needed.

all but the amraam becasue the amraam still has a pretty big guidance delay

same works against any other fox-3
at long ranges the amraam is one of the missiles that loses the least ammount of speed especially when manouvering

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Il not getting why dual plane maneuvering would make it harder to defeat the AMRAAM kinematically. Instinctively I’d say it’d be just as easy, if not more, to bleed it out of its energy, just like any fox 3 shot above 15-20km side/rear aspect

You can’t really dodge a R-77-1 or MICA closing in on you frontally below 5 km (the MICA not at all). The AIM-120 is easily defeatable at that range.

I meant shots inside the NEZ.

Might be skill issue, but to me, all fox 3* missiles fired within the NEZ are not evadable, even the AIM120C, without proper notching, because when it has like 2km to speed up, it’s still very deadly if doesn’t have to do a whole 90º HOBS turn

then maybe you should comunicate that in some way

the amraams whole flight envelope dosent stop at 5km