My apologies, but there is a significant discrepancy between the operational empty weight and basic empty weight used by the Russians—for the MiG-29 alone, the difference amounts to half a ton. Furthermore, according to information from Sukhoi, the forward fuselage section of the Su-35 was modified by replacing electronic equipment with empty fuel tanks. This modification could not possibly result in a heavier airframe than the Su-30; its actual weight is very likely less than 19 tons.
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Don’t need to, the SM alone is 18800kg, already lighter
Operational empty weight for su-30sm is 19.7 tons. lol.
I would’ve reported it to make it heavier if empty weight reporting was still allowed
So insanely crap cause china only gets stuff once or twice a year for air tree, and if this is very half-cooked without any WS-10B and good CAS people can’t deny china not being one of the worst treated nations alongside Israel ingame for the air trees
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you should check out the weight difference between F-16C and F-16I in WT (F-16I is around 100kg lighter)
same as F-22?
@Smin1080p_WT With the F/A-18’s getting an updated (somewhat fixed) JHMCS could we see some of the fixes, specifically the radar target lock box, added to the systems used by the F-15’s and F-16’s that use JHMCS. They have been missing this feature since they were added.
Or even just add the new JHMCS to the F-15’s and F-16’s since it has the features that are missing.
not looking forward to when they give the chally 3 TD the 6x fixed sights like the ajax
Well assuming that’s the case is all well and good, but do an ounce of research before acting so bold, the Su-35S is 200kg heavier than the Su-30SM2
I wonder if console will ever have expanded graphics settings
Yeah that’ll be really unfortunate
Probably about a 3% chance of happening
In reality, the combat empty weight of the Su-30SM is approximately 20 tons, while its actual empty weight should be less than 19.5 tons. The Su-35, on the other hand, has eliminated the canards and some bulky electronic equipment. I believe its actual empty weight ranges from 18 to 18.5 tons, with a combat empty weight of 19 tons. It is definitely lighter than the Su-30SM in any case.
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well it has been 4 months since it was passed to the devs
Yeah. It’s empty weight is 18800 kg while it’s operational empty weight is 19.7 tons
Empty weight in War Thunder is without any fluids, ammo, or souls onboard at minimum.
According to the 2019 Su-30SME brochure, the normal takeoff weight of the Su-30SME is 26,090 kg. Based on the display board data, the normal takeoff weight of the Russian domestic Su-30SM is 25,891 kg, which is essentially the same. Figure 4 shows the data of the Su-27SK, and Figure 5 presents that of the Su-30MKK/MK2. It can be seen that the normal takeoff weight of Sukhoi’s aircraft includes 5,270 kg of fuel, two R-73 missiles, two R-27R missiles, plus the pylons for carrying these ammunitions.
Assuming the Su-30SME follows the same standard, its operational empty weight can be calculated as: 26,090 - 2×253 - 2×105 - 5,270 - 150 = 19,954 kg, while that of the Su-30SM is 19,755 kg. Using the same calculation method, the operational empty weight of the Su-27S is 17,300 kg and that of the Su-30MKK is 18,700 kg, which is basically consistent with the general consensus.
However, this standard may evolve over time. For the Su-35S, the missile configuration has been changed to RVV-AE + R-73, which reduces the overall weight by 120 kg accordingly.
The empty weight metric in War Thunder is rather odd. Different aircraft adopt different standards—the Su-27S uses basic empty weight , while the Su-30SM employs combat empty weight instead. This is highly inconsistent.
Why use the su-30SME brochure? They’re different planes
