Estimated. Pretty bad to take seriously cause they are normally on the safe side as to not exaggerate the threat.
Well that is still a PESA, u wouldn’t use it if u have an AESA.
the highest estimate was 22 so not even 2 dozen so still just over half of what you said lol
Estimate, again, nothing reliable, especially coming from NATO sources on a hostile nation’s top secret. 22 is very much on the safe side and when mass production starts this will soon jump. The number estimated for J-20 for example jumped from 2 dozen in 2016 to more than 200 today, with estimates of as many as 3-400 purely by tail number.
Also what did I say on numbers?
Cool, definetly going to watch that!
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the Su57 has struggled to get into mass production for years so its quite the jump to assume they can, and thats still a 9 year gap from a couple dozen to 200 for the J20, this was from a year ago I highly doubt that a nation that has sturggled to produce a dozen Su57s over the last 15 years has suddenly been able to produce several dozen in a single year
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That was in fact 2018, but there is a lag time cause u need to analyse data from previous years. I would say Su57 RN is around 30 or 40, maybe 50-60 accounting prototypes.
they did, the original plant was to small and ill equipped to build 76 by 2027, which resulted in a new line being built, the higher estimate was they could build 20 in 2024, compared to the say 110 F-35s that were built in 2024
They have multiple AESA air defence radars, some of which are meant to detect stealth aircraft. They also have domestic SAM meant as counterpart to S-400
Well, I guess it is more accurate to say they had
I say watch from the start of the series ; P
also why are we even arguing about production numbers…? because I think its safe to say that both the J-20 and F-35 will continue to be produced faster then the Su57 especially if the Su57 only has a single operator outside of russia
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Yup, definetly!
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As long as the discussion is about combat effectiveness and doesn’t go anywhere else there should be no problem
The only one that is close to the SU57 production number might be F15EX, seems these manufacturers got some trouble lmao
What about all the other advanced eagle airframes theyve been making?
The EX first flew 2021 and only just entered service in late 2024
Boeing is also shifting a lot of focus to making the F-47
Still using over 4 years, remember the EX is just a part of the Advanced Eagle program, which is just based on improving F15SA. After 3 years of manufacturing, only 9 were delivered out of 104 planned, which is even worse than SU57 or some kinds of destroyers’ production numbers.
For F-47? I prefer their artistic rendering because they finally accept Canard Delta.
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The Su57 first flew in 2010 15 years ago… if we wanna give them the benefit of the doubt it entered service in 2020 so five years and its estimated that 22 MAYBE 30 planes have entered service so thats 4-6 planes a year meaning the F-15EX has a higher unit per year
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su-57 first flew in 2020 dawg what are you talking about. You’re confusing t-50 and su-57
Currently it looks like there are plans for Scorpion HMD, IRDS (Infrared Defensive System), TacIRST, and stealth fuel tanks and sensor pods.
There are also most likely more upgrades planned for the Raptor like more sensor upgrades but not much else has been announced or seen yet.
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