Still wonder where this is always coming from, yet no evidence.
From my time on Dev, the F-2 only had a chance in sustained rate fight against the Rafale.
The new “over-the-shoulder” feature of the MICA EM also give the Rafale a small advantage - but luckily it only works with locks atm and doesn’t slave to SPECTRA as in real life.
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Starshark doesnt work with the Typhoon. Been loads of reported examples where it just lies through its teeth.
But in game, actual testing. Not a lot a Typhoon can do against a Rafale at the moment especially in a fight with missiles.
Aim-9M and Aim-120B are useless in a dogfight.
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You have things liek the fact the Rafale can pull 22+G and not rip but the Typhoon breaks at 12G and yet reported sources show that the Rafale should break at about 16G and the typhoon should break about 18G.
Also in a lot of cases the “close enough” rules have left the Rafale overperforming. Usually where game limitations apply, they prefer the aircraft to be too weak than too strong. (look at the tornados) in the Rafales case, its the opposite.
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Like I said with the disclaimer on that video, but you can see the F-2 winning everytime (which I feel is wrong? but whatever). If true, then F-2 is a pretty meta dogfighter (heck it still is, if it loses to EFT/Rafale as it’s close enough).
If the F-22 is at best on par with the eurocanards, then I think we can breathe a sigh of relief there
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might get to read some interesting manuals, look on the bright side
no hmd + low CMs ? food for rafale/flankers in wvr.
theres gonna be premium f22 premium f35 premium variant of su-57, su-57 prototype event vehicle
I am fairly certain Gaijin will buff it to the heavens because they know the consequences of not doing so.
I’ve never seen 22G or anything near that number on my Rafale and I guess this is just (yet again) linked to the trim exploid that not only affects Rafale. I would hardly call this overperfom.
Also pretty sure I’ve seen a video where the EFT was also able to pull over 20Gs in some condition, but idc.
it should be better at low speed and at high speed match most of what they can do. id guess it would have great supersonic performance, maybe even better than the typhoon since the F-22 was built to fly at like 1.5+
Has this been communicated to those who run it?
No idea, but we’ve had a number of people try to use it as “evidence” the Typhoon is overperforming based upon their sources and then get shown that actually in game its underperforming compared to those same sources.
As it stands, there is a report up to increase the Typhoons STR.
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Go tell them. They’re fairly receptive.
Umm, HMD doesn’t matter thanks to vertical ACM mode (you can see it in the video). Also how is 120 CMs low?
It’s possible but then there’s other consequences from the rest of the playerbase so who matters more? Maybe they’ll nerf it after release once people spend money, or they’ll try to make people focus on stealth since they’re “working on it”
With or without TVC? Cause with TVC I think that’s a given since Su-30 can pull funny moves, but unlike the Su-30 it can probably stay in the air and hover effortlessly
yeah with TVC. the things ive read from test pilot interviews about what the F-22 was capable of with TVC…
Fair enough, I think a TVC F-22 is gonna be tricky to dogfight. Gotta somehow force them to rate and not get baited into being slow next to them while they do their acrobatics
you did not compare vertical acm to hmd.
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what plane are we talking about that can outrate a raptor? twin F119 will push it back up to speed pretty quick