that isnt specifically to beat AA though
to get around it sure, but glide bombs and JDAMs are pretty versatile
True, but that else stays in same general area through the match? You wouldn’t use them against MBTs, thats for sure
They don’t even need specific weaponry. Hammers, Kh38 and even mavs will likely still do more than fine against these new spaa.
EDIT: at least on the good cas platforms like the F-15E/I, Su-30SM and Rafale. Worse platforms might have more dificulties.
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well outside of GRB there are many targets to hit with GPS guided stuff. in GRB, it just happens that only one thing that GPS stuff can effectively deal with appears in that mode
I don’t really see the need for them when 38’s, Hammers and heck even Mav’s currently clown AA as hard as they do.
All these new AA’s are worse than Pantsir so it ain’t even like CAS is under any real need to ‘level up’ as it were.
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The issue is aircraft that dont have 38s, Hammers or Mavs.
Also would be fun gameplay for other gamemodes to just ground. Like ASB.
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there shouldnt be a problem with dedicated SEAD weaponry and aircraft like the F-105G, EA-6B, F-4G, with AGM-78’s since they dont pose a real threat to anything besides big SPAA
if MIM-23 and Soviet SAM’s start appearing at cold war BR’s they become completely necessary, even now i dont think they would be op at all
I don’t think weaponry should be added to the general game that will make a gamemode near unplayable again. I would be fine with those weapons if they were excluded from ground.
Imagine if Gaijin added the Patriot or S-400 as a playable SPAA in ground and at the same time also replaced all current airfield aa with patriots in air. You wouldn’t hear the end of the air players complaints.
The problem is that those AA are already on life support lol.
There’s just no real need for yet another counter to them, when they’re already being countered hard enough.
you can turn your radar off and AGM-78’s will enter another zip code
And then you die to the Mav/Hammer/38/Brim you don’t see coming.
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you dont have to leave it turned off for too long with the earlier ARM’s
I dont think that would be their effect though.
As they could be defeated by just switiching the radar off, they become more of a threat than a hard counter. Especially for those like the SLM that fire IR guided weapons and dont even need their radars on.
But at the moment, something like a Tornado stands basically no chance of dealing with one of these new SAMs and yet could more than likely face them. The addition of something like ALARM gives them a chance.
If they wont add MMW to give everyone FnF weapons, then HARM would be the next best thing. Just annoying that these new SAMs render several nations DOA in terms of CAS now. But because 1 nation has KH-38MTs, the idea of maybe buffing some other nations CAS is apparently not possible
Or imagine if they added super accurate, instantly re-acting SPAAGs to the convoys and battlefields that killed you the milisecond you entered within 5km… Oh wait, that is exactly what we have in SB at the moment. So I dont really see the point.
I’ve not tested the others, but he could absolutely clown a Spyder lol.
With what?
fly in low level and carpet bomb an area using high drag bombs?
PGM’s… Brimstones… Heck even LGBU’s.
Derby has 4km min range and 8km max range.
Python has 2-3km min range and 8km max range
It’s honestly kind of atrocious.
I don’t think it’s so big.
8km max (effective) range is around expection
It shouldn’t be, but that’s what it is on dev.
Well… more thinking like the Tornado Gr1, ASSTA1 or IDS (1995).
GR1 does have PGMs, but you might get them all off before the Derby killed you.
Though sounds to me more like the Spyder is a buggy mess and its performance on the dev server shouldnt be the same as what it is going to be on the live server.
So we’ll have to wait and see. But if IRIS-T SLM and Spyder do get their IRL performance. Then some CAS is gunna need some buffs too and then some of it mgiht be usable in the air modes too
yeah stuff like AN/MPQ-64 is underperforming quite severely as well. but its all WIP so for now best to assume its close to IRL performance