Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

I see. That makes sense. With the German and Italian navies barely existing there’s not much of a need for a true ship of the line. Then yeah it would make more sense for her to be after Hood, you’re right.

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HMS Lion or HMS King George V would be the more sensible ships to place after Warspite and Rodney.

Though I do wonder where they plan to stick a Revenge-Class. Though she was a direct successor to the QE-Class, so maybe that should go after Warspite.

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Yamato looking up at the Nighthawk

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Hehe yeah. Though it might be time for aircraft to fully use split BRs for Naval

I was hoping to use the Buc S1 and Sea Vixen in NRB

Maximum br cap is .3 higher than the max br ship in the lineup

Which would be 9.0.

But it was 8.3 on the dev server and I think they said 8.7 on the dev strream

I really hope it isn’t 9.0. Imagine getting bombed by a supersonic jet in your first battle in one of the new ships.

yamato facing nighthawk would be so funny and historically accurate

@Smin1080p_WT Sorry for the ping but any news on the MiG-29 Flight model since they’re adding a premium for the italians? The bugreport still says “Forwarded for review”
MiG-29 — Incorrect sustained turn rate // Gaijin.net // Issues
Also anything on the exported JAS39C’s AOA toggle not working? Most of the bugreports got left on “Accepted” or without a response.

naval battles is fun lol

just played sms baden and their entire navy started shooting at me and at the very end of the match they killed me finally lol

Good chance a lot of those firing at you were bots, and whilst they do damage, they arent quite as dangerous as a player. Baden’s have never been much of an issue for me in Rodney

But yes. Naval gets a lot of bad rep, but is a really solid gamemode in its own right

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This is a good change but it needs to apply to all tech trees with more than 2 Rank VI vehicles. Like, why does it apply to Great Britain, which has five vehicles in Rank VI, but not Japan, which also has 5 vehicles in that rank?

If this is really the do-or-die patch for Naval, Gaijin needs to be doing a lot more than this to reduce the grind for players. If you attract new players to the mode with Yamato and Bismarck, you’re going to infuriate them if grinding the entire naval tree is still as unpleasant as it currently is.

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I hope they add B-36 soon, for the T12 bomb vs. yamato

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They’re closer in role. Historically the successor to Warspite would be the KGV class, and the successor to the Nelson’s would be the Lion class.

Vanguard was intended to be a successor to the R class that was useful but the design would evolve rapidly from the point of its intention. The class would then be designed to complement Hood and fulfill her purpose so Hood could be modernised or retired. Then war broke out and they still intended the class to complement Hood, but in fewer numbers and so that Hood could for certain be modernised (they hoped to get a better protection scheme and 32 knots with new machinery).

Eventually Hood gets sunk, and they pool resources into Vanguard to essentially have her be a replacement for Hood. She is Hoods direct replacement, and the class was the natural successor to the Admiral class.

It wasn’t until way past Vanguard being retired that she was called a Fast Battleship. As you can see in this extract which is quoting ADM1/10141, Design on of 15-inch gun battleship, 1939, Public Records Office, (Vanguards design specification by the Director of Naval construction), though she was acknowledged to be a well armoured Battlecruiser, she was still, fundamentally, a battlecruiser.

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There is a newspaper article from the day Vanguard was launched calling her a Battleship, but that was a tabloid assumption as they weren’t provided any information on the type of ship that she was. She was just called a capital ship.

Then there’s the fact that she’s a faster annex to another class, this in UK naming nomenclature is always a battlecruiser. E.G Hood, Invincible, Queen Mary have parent classes of QE, Dreadnaught and Iron Duke classes.

That’s a valid point, originally no, as time went on yes. But the UK had long moved past a battle line ideal as we know it, that’s why they were doing everything they could to increase the fleets speed to a minimum of 28knots (plus the Nelsons), for a tactical battle advantage.

Yes this is exactly like the conversation we had about Amagi not being after Kongou and Mutsu also. I supported the Japanese community then although it failed, so I’d hope they would reciprocate that gesture (now I’ve explained my motives).

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Because the UK has 6 vehicles in rank V and 7 in rank IV, Japan only has 5 in these ranks. It used to be that you had to have 6 or all of the vehicles in the rank to progress.

I hope for separate battleratings for naval like there is for air and ground.

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We do have them. It just up to the Snail to actually adjust them

Makes more sense to just limit it to WW2 aircraft and then most issues sort themselves out

Hmm…

Maybe

It depends on how the current changes to the naval AI AA play out. If its possible for a WW2 era aircraft to actually make a succesful attack solo, then yes. Later aircraft arent needed

But if its still nearly impossible alone. Then access to some of the early jets between 7.0 and 8.7 would be really useful.

If nothing else being able to bring Canberra over a Lancaster is rather nice

I don’t think your bombs would penetrate, if I was us I’d probably want to take the lancaster and just dome things with the Grand Slam. Nothing has the deck protection required to defeat that.