Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

[Fluffy_Bucketles]

I would have checked, but alas.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@LeMemeAesthetic

Out of curiosity, how long do most vehicles take from the start of planning to their introduction? I have heard people say ~1 year on average, though I imagine there is a fair amount of variance.

If possible, could you share some of the vehicles that had unusually long or short development cycles?

Your absolutely correct. Every vehicle is almost its own unique case, unless we have an existing family memeber of it in game. In which case, we probably already had everything already collected some time ago.

Whilst I cant comment on every possible case, one example I was involved with was the Sea Vixen. It was actually considered a couple of years in advance, we had already collected references, external photos and cockpit photos so it seemed on track. However we noticed once it had started that there was (at the time) barely any shots of ite wheel wells anywhere online etc.

Luckily I live in the UK and close to two Sea Vixens, so within a couple of weeks I could plan a visit to both and collect photos of what we lacked. So it had a very minimal impact to its development timeframe.

As you can imagine, this is a best case scenario. There are many cases were we cant do that, either because a vehicle may not exist, be accessible or be Geographically feasible to reach. So that sort of thing can quite drastically differ from vehicle to vehicle.

A huge amount of effort goes into each vehicle behind the scenes by our devs, researchers and artists.

[LibrA]

Could you please disclose Snail’s update schedule? Will there be a new version this week?

[Smin1080p_WT]

We will make a news announcement for maintenance whenever the update is due. Not before that.

[ron_23]

@Fluffy_Bucketles

Whilst I sometimes have faith in my fellow individual to engage with topics sensibly, I can always count on individuals like you to remedy me of this false notion.

i have lost any faith in you trying to have a normal conversation and now you are just trying to get the interlectual high ground by calling me stupid without even trying to see the flaw in your statment

@Fluffy_Bucketles

If you throw it into a flat spin, sure.

i have proven this statment wrong as i have clearly demonstrated

@Fluffy_Bucketles

you are still pulling below what it ought to in ordinary maneuvers

and please explain to me, oh interlectually supirior one, how does one pull +30° of AoA without slowing down
and may i ask if this a stall as well at ~550kph?

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[Morvran]

So? any chance of this for the TT at some point then? :P

de Haviland Sea Vixen FAW.1: Ugly yet Beautiful

poll [image] de Haviland Sea Vixen FAW.1 Hello and Welcome to my suggestion for the de Haviland Sea Vixen FAW.1! The first iteration of the both famous and infamous Sea Vixen. I feel this could come to the British Tech Tree as a researchable alternative to the FAW.2 given its place in Fleet Air Arm history and its ability possibly to carry guns. History

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The Development as the Sea Vixen started as early as 1946, when de Haviland began talks with the British Admiralty for a future all-…

[Dontkev-psn]

Can you confirm that the Update comes before GTA VI?

[Smin1080p_WT]

Thats a tough one.

[Smin1080p_WT]

Its not something in the plans right now at least.

[ron_23]

will it release before Half Life 3?

[Morvran]

Thats a shame. Sea Vixen with a gun would be an actually unique addition and it currently being locked behind a paywall is a shame. Also Red Tops are underperforming loads at the moment

[Dontkev-psn]

So update cancelled?
Did an Opsie happend and now the entire Update is gone?
))))

[ron_23]

dont Jinx it

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Dontkev-psn

So update cancelled?
Did an Opsie happend and now the entire Update is gone?
))))

Not at all. From a Technical perspective with the new SPAA mechanics and multi vehicle developments its simply a complex one. On top of that, there have been a lot of fixes, improvements and changes from the last dev.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Morvran

Thats a shame. Sea Vixen with a gun would be an actually unique addition

FAW.1 had no gun. Your thinking of the DH.110 prototypes.

[toyeLinux]

this is a example of big issue that i really hope get fixed in the new update… is 5 months old and again… big issue, all get freeze during a good number of seconds

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Gzuh9IYe7yLp

so… yes, let’s them cook a good update please !!

[Morvran]

@Fluffy_Bucketles @ron_23

So, throwing the Gripen C around, the only time I got above 35° AoA was in a near stall, but I wouldnt necessarily describe it as a flatspin as I hadn’t lost control. But if I wasnt in full AB, it certainly does stall. The Gripen just has a very low stall speed. But most of the time it seems to cap out at more like 30.

I certainly couldnt achieve 40° AoA at higher speeds

Also. Iirc, Gaijin did limit SAS Damping to the soft limit of 9Gs instead of the hard limit of 12Gs, despite saying that the SAS: Damping is intended to be the hard limit. Which really annoyed me iirc.

Id do a couple more tests, but I just had the alt-tab crash and cba to load the game back up

[Morvran]

Yeah, which as per lxtavs suggestion, could come as part of the FAW1 to make it unique to the FAW2

[ron_23]

@Morvran

I certainly couldnt achieve 40° AoA at higher speeds

monkey pull at ~680kph in full real with the AoA limiter turned off, clean air frame and min fuel in this case:

[Dontkev-psn]

Speaking about the technical side, may I ask:
My report for the wrong flame color of the IRIS-T SL got changed to a suggestion because

There is no such functionality yet, it has been converted into a suggestion.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rhpLrm3CfIP9

However, if we look at the jets, we have this already, while we don’t have it for missiles; it does exist for planes.
So is this really “just” a suggestion?