I don’t think weaponry should be added to the general game that will make a gamemode near unplayable again. I would be fine with those weapons if they were excluded from ground.
Imagine if Gaijin added the Patriot or S-400 as a playable SPAA in ground and at the same time also replaced all current airfield aa with patriots in air. You wouldn’t hear the end of the air players complaints.
The problem is that those AA are already on life support lol.
There’s just no real need for yet another counter to them, when they’re already being countered hard enough.
you can turn your radar off and AGM-78’s will enter another zip code
And then you die to the Mav/Hammer/38/Brim you don’t see coming.
you dont have to leave it turned off for too long with the earlier ARM’s
I dont think that would be their effect though.
As they could be defeated by just switiching the radar off, they become more of a threat than a hard counter. Especially for those like the SLM that fire IR guided weapons and dont even need their radars on.
But at the moment, something like a Tornado stands basically no chance of dealing with one of these new SAMs and yet could more than likely face them. The addition of something like ALARM gives them a chance.
If they wont add MMW to give everyone FnF weapons, then HARM would be the next best thing. Just annoying that these new SAMs render several nations DOA in terms of CAS now. But because 1 nation has KH-38MTs, the idea of maybe buffing some other nations CAS is apparently not possible
Or imagine if they added super accurate, instantly re-acting SPAAGs to the convoys and battlefields that killed you the milisecond you entered within 5km… Oh wait, that is exactly what we have in SB at the moment. So I dont really see the point.
I’ve not tested the others, but he could absolutely clown a Spyder lol.
With what?
fly in low level and carpet bomb an area using high drag bombs?
PGM’s… Brimstones… Heck even LGBU’s.
Derby has 4km min range and 8km max range.
Python has 2-3km min range and 8km max range
It’s honestly kind of atrocious.
I don’t think it’s so big.
8km max (effective) range is around expection
It shouldn’t be, but that’s what it is on dev.
Well… more thinking like the Tornado Gr1, ASSTA1 or IDS (1995).
GR1 does have PGMs, but you might get them all off before the Derby killed you.
Though sounds to me more like the Spyder is a buggy mess and its performance on the dev server shouldnt be the same as what it is going to be on the live server.
So we’ll have to wait and see. But if IRIS-T SLM and Spyder do get their IRL performance. Then some CAS is gunna need some buffs too and then some of it mgiht be usable in the air modes too
yeah stuff like AN/MPQ-64 is underperforming quite severely as well. but its all WIP so for now best to assume its close to IRL performance
Spyder, is seemingly cooked now unfortunately.
Supposedly a tech mod or whatever said it won’t have Derby ER’s (SLM kind of range) so it’s going to be stuck with SR’s at best (ADATS kinda range lol)
It could have been SLM / Pantsir quality, but now it’s destined to play like a Tor with Strela missiles.
If CAS does get a buff, and this is what I have to deal with it, I think I’m done.
about 12 days left to drop the update i think
It definitely would, because every spaa needing to have their radar off would means barely any competition for another plane that can get up to 6 free kills.
For the first time in months, hell even years, cas at top tier is not just some free kills crutch that bad players can use so that they can pretend that they are decent at the game.
8km max effective range is terrible for a new 12.0 spaa lol.
it’s just similar to old tops including Pantsir, fnf and auto pilot makes them more efficient, still a progress.
Then a lot of CAS needs a BR reduction. Kinda stupid to expect a Tornado Gr1 to fight IRIS-T SLMs.
But anyway. CAS still needs buffs. If nothing else, aircraft like the Typhoon can actually be partially brought up to their IRL performnace rather than massive fake nerfs
The SLM currently can’t fire its missiles at all without a radar lock. So it would just become completely useless…