time to bring good old VT-1 i suppose
Also if gaijin is going to make russian helis invisible to IR missiles, they would do well to model the doppler blade return, so that fox-3s can lock them no issue
Fair enough. In hindsight I shouldn’t have been too suprised it ends up being real, seeing as Gaijin doesn’t mind adding and working on borderline dead gamemodes.
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If Benelux, India, or Switzerland cant have their own tech trees, and considering how Czech vehicles are being added to the USSR, its likely they won’t get their own TT either. And if we also consider the five line limit per tech tree, I have to say the only logical step forward is for the game to keep expanding through new branches within the existing national trees (infantry, submarines, carriers, etc.).
Naval was split into two branches, and submarines will probably be a third. Infantry will be its own independent branch, I’d say thats a given. Enlisted doesnt matter. Unlike wargamings model, where each game is separate, Gaijin has always boasted about having everything in a single game. Infantry is inevitable. Wargaming has no problem expanding its titles because their content is pure fantasy.
War Thunder, on the other hand, will need to introduce other military branches to keep adding content with every update. And in that sense, infantry shooters have always been popular and offer almost unlimited potential for new content.
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it has a DIRCM that only works on IR so DCA in SACLOS and AGM TV like the AGM 65B can easily destroy a Mi 28NM
First off DIRCM has been in the game for years. Second I did my own testing. Compared to LIVE AGM-65G, SPIKES and likely PARS are now affected by it, KH-38MTs seeker is affected but I think its IOG keeps it on course so effectively no change. AGM-65D remains unaffected. Which points to gaijin changing AGM IR Seekers and not the DIRCM.
with an IR camera ( AH64E ??? )
Looks to be. They were still testing it in 2022/23 right.
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And as you can see: A perfect target for an IIR seeker → Home-on-Jam
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As it gets closer the jamming may fill most of the seeker fov though
Oh hang on a second… How is the IRIS-Ts gunna deal with anythign DIRCM?
Ignore the lines with DIRCM?
IRIS-T has a line-scan seeker: 128x2 which scans 64 lines 80 times per second to build a 128x128 picture. If the lines which show the DIRCM get ignored, the rest of the plane/heli becomes visible again.
The intensity will vary either way, so you could just focus on the center with the strongest light by measuring the intensity per pixel. Or the seeker itself reduces its sensitivity to reduce overblend.
It wont since IIR like a few guidance types arent modelled in game. Good thing you still have saclos missile carriers. Also good thing the russian helis are currently off meta and therefore rare when compared to the fixed wing cas.
Is any of this stuff actually in any of the missiles though? Or is it just speculative ways to beat modern DIRCM. If it was so easily negated I don’t think multiple upper level militaries would still be going for it
AFAIK they go for it with much stronger lasers, not to distract the missile but to destroy its seeker → Directed Energy Weapon.
whos talking about DIRCM only? am talking about LDIRCM too and yes its OP the KA-52 with its DIRCM was untouchable for years with IR missiles (not AGMs) and it remains OP and prevalent in GBR and 8v8 SQBs coz of that and now we have another russian heli reciving one of the most strong things against not just IR missile but now against AGMs making it untouchable for everything that its IR guided also even the KH-38MT its affected by this because i saw it, AGM-65Ds are also affected by this i dont know from where you get that its not when you can literally see it in the video, gaijin didnt change IR seekers from nothing they are still the same another thing that i dont know is from where you getting this information because the datamines does not show any change in the IR seekers we have already in game. the only armament that should not be affected by this are TV and LASER guide ones and in top tier literally 12.7-13.0 GBR all the jets have IR and Laser guided munitions not TV soo… we are literally forced to bring laser guided munitions to try to counter the russian helis because also the new SAMs with IR guided missiles does not work on helis with DIRCM and LDIRCM, SAMs that are literally developed with this in mind are not working like its intended once again gaijin its doing a great job keeping the russian CAS dominant and relevant. we asked for soo long for a solution and what we get? another new mechanic that makes only some russian helis untouchables by everything that its IR guided thats wonderfull isn´t it?
DIRCM on Z-10ME and AH-64E, both very modern and made well into IIR seeker time. Unless they use the stronger lasers your talking about
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Urgh, I mixed up two types of counter meassures: IRCM and DIRCM.
IRCM is ineffective against modern IIR.
DIRCM is also effective against IIR, but the used laser has to be tuned for the wavelength of the seeker of the approaching missile. So if the frequencies do not match or the laser isn’t exactly pointed at the missiles seeker it’s ineffecive again.
I got it from my own testing of everything but pars (Dont know a pars haver thats online). AGM-65D was not affected by MI-28NMs DIRCM, As I said KH-38MTs seeker was but in multiple instances of testing against Ka-52 its seeker while being affected still managed to connect with the Kamov likely because of the IOG.