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I believe other maps are scaled down to varying degrees as well.

As for the map not being the Falklands without being 1:1, well, if it was 1:1 it would only be the East Falklands lol

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What makes me really mad is that they claimed on the Dev stream it was 1:1 scale. which is just a blatant lie

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Not really it was against F 4 radars because they oparate at G and J frecuency

I guess most historical locations up until now are places where you don’t have to try so hard to squeeze everything in, like only getting a piece of the british channel or only a piece of norway is fine.

So it was effective lol

Yeah. Most to rough scale are fine. They obviously just wanted the entire island so shrunk it to fit.

But man they dropped the ball for it big time. Even in ARB, its a pretty poor map because of how much space they wasted

Well the Sky Shadow was a 70` era jammer used against f4 instead of the f15,f16 …

It was a 70s era jammer that was still effective even during the Gulf war in 1991.

Says a lot for how good it was in 1970s.

But the point is. Tornado IDS was added alongside F-16 and Mig-29s and would have HUGELY benefitted from having that as an advantage to allow them to survive better.

So just because ECM is very common on top tier aircraft like the Rafale and Typhoon. Doesnt necessarily mean it will be added anytime soon. They should but dont necessarily need it. Heck the Typhoon doesnt even have its IRL CMs.

the thing with ECM is that even if some are more effective and some are less effective in real life war thunder whould just add a code with reduces the range of so said bands if a tornodo ids witch in war thunder is mostly fighting f16 , f15 ,f14 , mig 29… that it bassicly cant jam becouse the open source says that it only jammes G and J bands it will be just useless so why even add it

Well. Its a lower BR than the F-4s and it faces a lot of F-4s so it would jam them quite a bit.

But also for example Tornado F3 IRL would jam the Mig-29/Su-27 just by locking onto it. That would be fun

this is a thing in modern radars and modern missile cause when u have a 200km missile with a 250km randar and you jam that radar too 150km lets say that matters
This is not the same with 70 80 and 90` missiles and radars because when you have a 30 km missile with a 100km radar and you jam the radar to 40km it will not have any effect

Didn’t you just say that the jammer worked well against Phantom radars? How would the jammer be useless when the plane carrying the jammer regularly faces Phantoms?

Thats also why ecm was not that used in the past it was mostly used against ground targets to perform wild wissile missions something we might have in war thunder soon but not now

It can but as i said war thunder whould just add a range reduction of the radar witch is not important for the F4J lets say that has a 100km radar with a max 30km missile and even 30km its a strech

You are underestimating how useful it can be to not get tracked by radars across the map

this was true to real life in a way but in real life it also reduced the missile efectiveness

how whould that be usefull?

I guess you don’t play sim and you never bother to flank in realistic battles lol

Well even in sim you will see the target whre it is and the aprox range all a jammer does is not showing you the exact range therefore u cand fire a missile at long ranges
at least in dcs it works like this and i think its the single way of adding such a system