Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 5)

which… it is? last i recal USA has always been top dog. best RWR, best missiles, BIAS “skill based” BRs (F4S at the same BR as the F4JUK, F15A lower BR then the SU27, F16A at 12.3 (EJ Kai and kurnas 2000 at the same BR))

The Eurofighter, Rafale, and SU-30SM are currently the best fighters in game, the F-15E is strong sure, but definitely not at everything. Now I’m not mad about that. I think it’s fair that this year the other nations get to enjoy a bit of superiority because we’re not far from 5th Gens, and when the F-22 and others drops the US is just going to dominate forever, at least until 6th Gens lol

Everything seems fine here?

I think the crew had too much schnitzel

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Well, there was always options like the CF-18 (with the F-18A coming much earlier than this update) or the BAE EAP and be a F-16AJ equivalent, but I’ll leave those there. I was more referring to the fact we got nothing. Not even the BAE Hawk, Jaguar GR3A, Harrier GR9A, Tornado Gr4, Buc S2B, etc etc. Just something to keep us entertained at or below 11.3 as top tier wasnt available to us.

In 2023 we got the F3 in March, which wasnt playable till June. We got the FRS1e in September which was basically a TT C&P of the SQV we got 9 Months before and then we got the Gripen C in December. You telling me that 1 or 2 additional aircraft in that year would have been unfair? (note the US got I think 8 aircraft over the course of 5 updates)

Its when they claim the Abrams is unplayable and the weakest top tier MBT in game… It clearly is not that, and its at that point I bring them down a peg or 2. Yes it has issues, or from what I can gather, one issue (the turret ring) but other that… It blows the CR2, Ariete and Merkava out of the water with ease

I accept the CR2 wont be meta, but come on, at least make it playable, with major things like ammo rack size still not fixed

Not to the detrement of other nations. Thats the point. Quantity of additions and distribution of said additions shoudlnt be dictated by IRL quantity of available options or popularity of said nation. It was stupid the soviets had twice the top tier line-up of Britain when it comes to naval, especially when all 6 nations could have kept relative pace, at least for a little bit.

In terms of top tier additons, I have no immediate need or want for anything else… In terms of air in general… no…

Harriers still need a lot of TLC.
Tornados are still missing loads
Typhoon is still a buggy mess and is screwed over by ahistorical nerfs.
I still want the Hawk
I still want the Gnat
I still want a bomber variant of the Mosquitto.

Just because we have the Typhoon, doesnt mean Britain’s air tree should just be forgotten.

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why does afterburners turn off when AOA limiter is off???

Ok, the more I read this argument the less it reads like a sensible one and more like “I want to hate on the UK” and will make up reasons to do so.

Very mature, I can see clown actually just IS your personality so good day lmao

That’s all it ever is, forum is full of tribals.

Su-27 is F-15A equal bud, not superior.

You can add leclerc to that

No. This is a video game made to be BALANCED.

Makes zero sense as an argument while you complain about not getting enough as USA, who gets multiple jets a PATCH on average

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Not at all, I definitely agree with you there. I want British players to get their aicrafts too. What I’m saying is no aircrafts could have been added to “fix” British top tier, because it would either be too mid or too OP. So the complaining was pointless, as much as it is now.

The F/A-18 surely wasn’t going to get added before the F-15. Now wouldn’t you agree that it would have been nice for the US to have gotten the F/A-18C alongside the EF-2000 to have even a semblance of hope agaisnt an EF-2000 or a Rafale, in a dogfight, not even in BVR which is what ARB is all about now.

It certainly isn’t. But both of our top tier tanks have issues, so why should we bring down the other nation instead of just trying to “unite” and get it fixed? That what a lot of the British mains do here, put their tree above everything else, and that’s what I’m agaisnt.

Well it goes the same of the Royal Navy too. US Air is strong and has a lot of aircrafts, yes. But it doesn’t have the Best aircraft anymore. Which again I’ve stated I am fine with. I want other nations to get ahold of Superiority this year before the F-22 and the other 5th Gens that are really close because after that it’s just gonna be USA on top for A WHILE.

Well here we go! I knew you were sane lol. I Think Britain Air right now is very strong, and I am happy for them. Sure we all have some issues or bugs in our trees, for you it’s the Harrier, for us it’s the Aim-54C underperforming etc… But I just don’t get the British mains complaining they got nothing for air this update…

Can probably add any MBT other than the Leopard 2s at this point

Yeah… US is the last nation that should be complaining about others “getting too much”

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You’re back? You’re biased as hell buddy. From the posts you’ve made I can clearly see you have something agaisnt the US in general, no point even replying…

The Su-27 is higher in BR for the same reason the F/A-18C sits at the insane BR of 14.0, missile count.

Same for the Royal navy then, no double standards here.

I never complained about USA not getting enough, you’re making a strawman here, not surprising coming from you though. All you do is promote minor nations and Bring down the major ones.

You might wanna go back there bud: There is a clear bias towards the USA/USSR in the air in the BR ranges from 8.0-8.7 and that needs to be addressed - Game Discussion / Realistic Battle - War Thunder — official forum

Considering another nation got a british capital ship without representation, that’s something i will and will continue to complain about

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And you’re free to do so, who’s gonna stop you?

My name is quite literally all nation enjoyer for a reason. I’m one of the least biased people on the platform.

I literally play USA and have their tech trees to rank 8.

As if this is the all determing factor to air engagements, get real.

What?

Implying what, that I’m wrong in that thread? lmao

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I would argue it would have been nice to have gotten the EFT and Rafale alongside the F-15E

Yes, but when I see threads like “ABRAMS NEEDS MASSIVE BUFFS BECAUSE MERICA!!!” I just cant help but laugh at US mains. They already the second or third strongest MBT in game at the moment.

You arent following what Im saying. We got HMS Hood 3 years ago at this point, and we only jsut got Rodney and Warspite to augment her properly. In the same amount of time, US got 4 or 5 battleships. It was rather BS the distribution of ships and given everyone is still weaker than the Scharnhorst. there can be no claims of “baalncing concerns”

I havent seen a signle Brit main complain about that. We were all complaining about the lack of BOL of the T.10, which we won by the way. Most were quite excited and rather happy for the T.10 because most rather hated the decision to add Aim-9Ms to the GR7. This “fixes” that.

A CF-18 could still be an interesting filler. But Im happy with what I got. Im more mad that the EFT radar didnt get the TLC it actually needed

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Whenever i do people act as if im asking the world when in reality all im after is a british built class where its supposed to be, no disrespect meant but sometimes making a stereotype which many here do tends to get incredibly frustrating

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There’s a typo in it then, *AllNationEnjoyer_ExceptMajorOnes

Same, we got something in common at least.

Bring down the F/A-18C then, it seems the only justification for it being at 14.0 is missile count, again, “get real”.

Maybe you can develop a bit there?

Also, you missed that in your reply :

Yeah, the lack of a Revenge-Class in the British TT is a tad annoying. Though at least we did get something else and not simply nothing, that would have made me really mad

I play all nations, I enjoy all nations. You are arrogant as hell to try to claim otherwise lmao.

I think I’d know? My name doesn’t mean I don’t call out problems with the game though, such as the imbalance at 8.3-8.7 in air.

I am not speaking on the hornet.

What? You realize if someone doesn’t know what you’re talking about, it’s not always their fault, sometimes its your inane rambling? lmao