Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

everyone has an option that isnt copy paste. it all disappears with F-35 though.

Well… We can always just skip the F-35 and go straight onto the 6th Gen aircraft.

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absolutely nothing is known about them other than vague statements and concept art. couple of pictures and video for the Chinese ones

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Even before that. Besides Europe “we want our own, domestic 4th gen!” it basically boils down to F-16 and Su-30

F-2, J-10, later F-15I have also been changed quite a bit.

Really wish Japan put there X-2 into service as a production fighter at least that would of gave them a unique gen 5 but oh well its basically Japans EAP 😆

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Can we have this issue expedited?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TbPZYqM9gXRB

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Depending on how effective stealth ends up being either next to nobody or nobody at all would try to engage a F-22 in BVR and I am fairly confident that both the Eurofighter and Rafale would beat the F-22 in WVR.
And as soon as IIR missiles arrive the F-22 wouldn’t stand a chance anymore.

F-22 might be able to fit spectral flares. So it would have a shot at surviving that.

5th page of this topic is here

Stuka will be able to carry 1,800 kg bomb after this update lol

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Even if they buffed its radar I do not think its all that crazy at 13.7 nor do I think it would be the 4th best 14.0 I would put the F/A-18C, Rafale, EF, F-15E/I, and Su-30SM ahead of it

Which is still just going to be copy-paste for everyone that isn’t US and China.

Yup and it will be funny as hell to drop those on unsuspecting tanks

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Who makes them first defines what a gen 6 is, but what seems to be universally agreed on is that: it is AI assisted, optionally unmanned, re-focused on high-alt high-speed, huge ranges, most likely twin-seater

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optionally unmanned, but also twin-seater lol

UAV intergration is likely the key improvement over gen 5, plus reorienting towards higher combat altitudes and higher speed, providing their weaponries more energy, and supporting gen 4/5 combat from a very long range
Hence optionally unmanned, it can be an UAV itself

Putting the J-11B to 13.7 is no different than putting Rafale to 13.7

Oh, and the F-15E/C are slightly inferior to the J-11B at this time. [You forgot to put C in your post despite it being identical to the F-15E outside acceleration.]

Sure, it just seems contradictory to design something with the goal of it being optionally unmanned while also planning a second seat.
I would expect them to rather do the usual and have both a single-seat and a twin-seat variant with the single-seat variant being the basis for the unmanned variant.

The only reason they would use the same plane both in a manned and unmanned configuration is to reduce development time and cost anyways. To me it seems more likely that they either go full on unmanned or go with the manned-unmanned teaming concept rather than using bigger, more expensive airframes as drones.

Not having to plan in a cockpit and everything the pilots would require means you can make the vehicle cheaper and smaller.

What are you on about bro I would put it about on par with the F-15C when I played it on the dev server it is not that good nor is it equal to any of the 14.0s other than the F-18C in the swedish tree which itself should be 13.7