Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

Like is the major issue with basically any contrail in any context within war thunder…

Context matters here. Maybe, Maybe not. But War thunder does contrails badly.

But I would still be fairly confident that most half decent RWRs would still detect the threat just fine and that a shot at 90 NM would have so little energy that anything other than a Tu-95 would be able to defend with ease

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there we have it

for tomcats only. (until meteor and other ultra long range AAMs arrive) even then war thunder doesn’t really lend itself well to BVR. also the average player in the playerbase is a buffoon, people asked for a map specifically like attica and now hate it so why would anything be different

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nah basically everyone glazzes it like its the best thing ever i dont understand fox-3 combat i dont like it i enjoyed when it was AIM-7M against R27ER

Or more specifically. ARB.

Everyone taking off and originating from a fixed point flying towards the other team who did the same and also not having to actually use the radar to find a target, only point the radar at something with a marker and then fire whilst well within range to do so even basically from spawn to spawn. Just makes BVR combat pretty dry.

in ASB, BVR combat is pretty fun. Been a while, and I rarely play them, but did have an F3 vs F-14A engagement in the ASB, and that was rather fun.

i just dont get it got lost on the way its hard in comparsion i rack up 4-2 kills games in F4E at 11.3 we move to 14.0 i get maybe 1 to 2 kills everyones like its skill based yap yap yap

ARB gamemode design/map design barely can cope with 11.0-12.0 aircraft.

it felt like it struggled quite a bit with the 12.0-13.0 stuff we had beginning of last year

Its totally dismal for 13.0+

If you want to get into better top tier gameplay. Play ASB or GSB.

an RB EC gamemode is desperately needed

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i dont know ive only got this far because ive been 1v1ing beta veterans who still play who just take typhoon every fight and climb to space with 6 120Bs im in f15C and i sometimes scrape a win in but not often so i dont even know any more dont know if i have what it takes to actually get good at toptier anymore

agreed. I just use fox 3 as a longer range sidewinder, i almost never do more than 15km launches and that’s only to try and get the last guys attention

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Yeah, im usually firing them within (or near) the LSZ

I dont even have my radars switched on most of the time, just quickly gain locks to lob a missile and back off it goes to not trigger RWRs

Yeah, thats fair, but thats the diference between ARB and ASB

you play typhoon a lot id assume what can you do to counter them

I do and I dont. Honestly, the radar just frustrates me and the Typhoon vs Typhoon gameplay in ASB gets rather stale.

In an ARB context I dont really know. In ASB I would say attack from an unexpected alt or direction and you’ll get shots off before the Typhoons radar has even found you.

what if he knows where you are

J out?

/s

I dont really know to be honest. Assuming you are in an F-15 and therefore dont have any meaningful AAM advantage like MICA or Magic IIs do on the Rafale.

Avoid the merge?

Keep the Typhoon defending at range?

we are always in visual range so I don’t need a radar saying where the furball is

can i ask you one more thing if your energy fighting is the F15E better or typhoon

Typhoon.

Much higher TWR

i really hope america gets there 4.5 soon XD cause im not gonna be having fun till then

Much like the year of Tornado F3 vs F-16.

Dont merge.

You do have a higher top speed and 8x AMRAAM. Use them. Stick at range, or make fast hack and slash attacks. If you try and gunfight a Typhoon, then you’ve already lost.

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