Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

not if its fired in its effective range.

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Incorrect. Unlike the gatewidth IRCCM missiles, the 9M will be able to see flares until it is nearly flying up the exhaust.

You could just play F-15E, one of the strongest aircraft ingame.

Plenty of fun to be had there.

Eh… I’d say Magic II are harder to defeat than Aim-9M when fired at close range, but Magic IIs will go for flares when fired at longer ranges, whilst Aim-9Ms IRCCM will be equally effective regardless of range. But… with the right tactic can be defeated equally easily at any range.

Which is better really comes down to context. They are different, but to say which is “better” changes rapidly

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Sometimes it will. but ive had 9ms ignore BOL pods worth of flares and wack a target from 3km

Do BOL flares work against even SRAAMs?

:P

sneezing works against them

when your target fires in excess of 50 of them while I’m trying to get a lock and my 9m still hits I cant complain about 9m

idk some times BOL works some times it doesnt my only experince with them is on the tomcat which is a hot plane

like 2000F hot

what planes get SRAAM ? GR-1 i know but anything else ?

Harrier GR1 & Hunter F6

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It depends on what kind of targets, the engine power directly impact the missile chasing ability, you can easily find that most of time F14B’s BOL doesn’t work, but not for JAS39

this has worked on AV8s su27s eurofighters and F16s. sometimes it is just unflarable

both horrible plat forms nothing supersonic ?

These engines are pretty hot and powerful too, also it depends on the flying status, flares needs to 100% cover the engine or fast enough to escape the lock range to make sure the missiles won’t choose the engine as the hottest target, for long range targets, it is hard than magic2 or pl5e2

Just those two I believe.

Yeah they’re pretty sad planes now, but GR1 was probably the most overpowered plane in WT History when it first arrived lol.

If I recall correctly, they had to bump its BR up literally a day or two after the update, then it went up again a couple weeks later.

not horrible. just insultingly overBR

nothing subsonic as we got sidewinder to replace red tops and things on faster faster aircraft coming into service

be fun if you shoved sraam on like a F4 with agile eagle we could be having fun but no

Honestly, I think both Harrier / Hunter are perfectly fine platforms for SRAAM in terms of flight performance, their big issue is that SRAAM’s force their BR’s to be high enough to face scary missiles themselves, which they have no flares to counter.

If GR1 / F6 had countermeasures they’d be bangers

let me refrase that you need to be doing 500 mph or faster the top speed of a harrier is 700mph or they do spinny