Yeah the only issue with it is the drag on the R-77 and R-77-1 is still complete bs so it is imo still worse than the AIM-120 by a long shot
I disagree as I use them on both the MiG-29SMT and Su-34 and they are imo the worst of the modern ARH missiles in the game only being better than the AIM-54
isnt R-77 supposed to be very draggy though?
Yeah… Though in fairness. Aim-120 is also underperforming by quite a margin. So if both were fixed. Im not sure how much would actually change relatively speaking. At least in terms of max range
Im sorry is chat really debating on if a 1990s Radar is better than one from the 1960s ??!!!???
AWG-9 was ahead of its time. only held back by older electronics, which was resolved with AN/APG-71, which is incredibly good
Not at supersonic and subsonic speeds iirc its the transonic speeds where it had more drag than the AIM-120
I mean ground effect is also an issue as you can just hug the earth at any range and boop ARH missile is useless
Only if fired at the same alt though.
Im finding that in aircraft like the Typhoon, which quite happily operate and survive at 20-30k ft. I get kills no matter what height you hide at, because I can just shoot down. Cant wait for the improved radar controls, going to make life so much easier in the coming update for shoot down
holy s*** they are.
Ok its still three decades older than the blue vixen, which was also very ahead of its time.
Thats why if I hug the earth and fly in an S pattern and drop a little chaff so even when above me I will still cause ground effect to trigger and kill the missile lol its such a dumb feature
how was blue vixen ahead of its time? it was behind when it entered service
and AN/APG-71 is more fair comparison, that has longer range, is more powerful (as powerful as CAPTOR-M), has good modes.
according to the manual the tomcat can hit farther than vixen it can track fighter sized targets at 80NM and F14 with AWG-9 can track same targets a 120NM but vixen is more precise
so id say there roughly on par NM is nautical miles btw
Blue Vixen = to AN/APG-73 despite the fact Blue Vixen was like half the size.
CAPTOR-M = to early PESA radars. (maybe even early AESA radars)
assuming the vixen is on par f18C it can hit 80NM and AWG-9 can hit at 120NM but vixen is more precise in 80nm than tomcat but tomcat hits farther as its a interceptor not air superiority
Pure range is one metric, and maybe useful for detecting inbound raids at longer ranges. But Blue Vixen had some insane look-down performance. Managing to outperform US AWACS during Operation Deny Flight in Bosnia in 1995.
not quite half iirc. but what was the power of blue vixen vs power of 73?
CAPTOR-M is maybe equivalent to Zaslon PESA radar from 1970’s. it isnt touching AESA except for very early ones in the range/peak power metric.
and when did blue vixen enter service?
yes thats why i said its more precise and is less likely to miss but in pure power i metric tomcat has that corner :D
1993, though was in development for much of the 1980s immediately following the Falklands a need for a more advanced radar on the SHars.
(should be noted that both the Typhoon’s CAPTOR-M and the Gripen’s PS-05 were both Blue Vixen descendants)
just wish aim54s functioned well enough to hit