lowest its gone i remeber at least was 12.7
so your points moot then cause you seem to not mentioon every other country having a similar plane
Su33 has always been 13.0?..
f15A was added when highest was 13.3
Thanks for telling me something i know??? And what does this have to do with your skill issue rant about an IRCCM missile?
12.3* Was 0.3 below the max (12.7), prior to the deocmpress beause “it had no HMD” which was BS
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rather op missile that shouldnt be available for everyone who has 70$ to burn
the magic 2 has better reliability are faster and incredibly flare resistant
Then make a thread if you are so fed up with it, jeez
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No HMD, truly a fate worse than death
it doesnt make that much difference honestly cause you could just pop infinite flares in 1v1 fights so should have been 12.7
Only in rear-aspect at about 1-1.5km.
In front or side aspect, they have equal flare resistance to an Aim-9L and in rear-aspect past about 2km, they are fairly trivial to defeat. Especially with pre-flaring.
Are you talking about Mirage F1C-200?
In which case, not all that OP at 12.0. Yes it has 2x Magic IIs, which are probably the best IR missiles on a supersonic airframe at this BR, but… France has no Aim-9L equivalent. which is why its non-optional. But they also have one of the most limited AAM counts on a supersonic airframe at this BR at just 2+2 with the optional but generally not worth it 2+3 fit. and one of the weakest SARH at that BR by quite a margin.
It also has a pretty poor RWR and a fairly limited radar. All-in-all. A fairly balanced aircraft for 12.0
F-22 will definetly need to be about 13.0 due to lack of HMD
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i mean magic 1 ? fav missile btw
Oh, in which case, better than Aim-9G (at least that is what the RN considered going into the Falklands) but nothing much to right home about. A fairly average rear-aspect missile for the most part
i feel its a pretty good equal to 9L
Ah yes, rear aspect only missile equal to 9L
to be fair for the head on thing why not just use the gun ? at that range
to be fair just pop flares and use gun
Nah, 9Ls slaps it silly, unless in a rear-aspect shot in a hard turn fight, at which point, the higher G missiles like Magic 1 and R-60 come into their own. But then thats just employing the 9L incorrectly rather than it being inherrently bad.