Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

It depends, if we’re talking about a C and E dogfighting the C will have a very slight edge, but at the end of the day it would come down to who is the better pilot.

Any hornet model vs pretty much any other top tier though? Outside of a slow speed dogfight with anything outside of a Eurocanard, playing the hornet will be pretty painful as it is going to be much slower than everyone else.

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29SMT mentioned RAHHH wtf is low speed maneuverability!!!

phantoms preform better then that brick. No way that thing is correctly modelled haha

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If they weren’t mixed in, there’d be far more room for decompression so the SKR could face actual equals on a regular basis.

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You under-estimate F-18’s speed. Its top speed will suffer, but its acceleration will not.
Not only that but its superb energy retention will make it rather easy to use.
It can’t escape much, but it also can’t lose to much.
Like an F-15E will always lose to an F-18C in air RB despite the F-15E being faster.

@Daft909
The Mig-29 airframes were buffed last year, the 29SMT performs about as well as an F-15E now in energy retention.

Eh… All the Mig-29SMT needs to be is a good target drone :P

Lol, yeah I haven’t really used that thing since the Fox-3 update as it wasn’t very fun to drop out of the sky after notching 1 missile.

Did you know that South Africa has more vehicles than Japan or Israel?))))))

It’s very stupid that SA is a sub tree.

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I specified timeframe from F-14 retirement to F-35C introduction lol.

Where only fighters would’ve been hornet and super hornet

We could be the sole users of block 4 F-35 and F-35 with AN/APG-85 for some time

I’m genuinely curious, never heard of this before.

So it wasn’t like US flying MiG for information and training?

I can Name all the Chinese Strategic / Psuedo Strategic Bombers.

The H-6 Family

Tu-4 / Tu-4 Turbprop

SH-5

B-24M

PB4Y-2

TB-3 MP

There are also many frontline bombers.

Nope. 20 more 10.3 SPAA for you

nah, we need a decent SPAAG for about 8.3

Specifically one with 35mm autocannons, of course

Nothing Morvran said is wrong.

But he did leave out 2 things

  1. The A+ you mentioned has the same avionics (radar and stuff) as a C, so it has AMRAAM, not SARH like base model A
  2. The E has more powerful engines, but is significantly heavier. The engines do not make up for this, so the E has worse flight performance
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I am aware of the Hornet’s acceleration (I have even heard of some accounts saying that a clean C could beat an F-15 to supersonic). The issue is it only has that acceleration until it hits Mach.

According to this GAO report page 30 (https://www.gao.gov/assets/nsiad-96-98.pdf) the C model bleeds a whopping 54 knots a second (100kph per sec). So I have my doubts on it being a great energy fighter.

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And personally, I would throw out most of the numbers for the Super Hornet in that GAO report, as they seem unrealistically bad.

As for always losing to an F-15E in ARB, I feel it would be the other way around, as the F-18 will always have to fight on the F-15’s terms due to the large top speed and high speed acceleration differences.

Maybe an F-15E with full CFT, and PW-220 engines on the verge of replacement

Imo coastal should be allowed to join bluewater battles (for people who want to do torpedo attacks), but a separate mode for coastal only would be nice, maybe even some pve-oriented mode, considering a low playerbase of coastal.

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Yeah, I’ve never heard anything concrete on that, just internet hearsay.

Energy retention when compared to other aircraft needs to be one of two things:
Same G-load, OR same speed.
Same speed reads out degrees per second.
Same g-load reads out speed loss per second.