Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

It still should not cost 70 SP. That would be BS OP.

Like I said, it was used by the navy primarily for strike missions, its ability to self-escort was a huge bonus, it was navy strike squadrons that adopted it, and the F-14 was still the primary aircraft for fleet defense, it wasn’t until the Super Hornet that the F-14 was actually replaced.

So, with that, combined with not wanting to have two new aircraft in series, I think it’d be best if the F/A-18C followed on from the AV-8B

I mean that’s your opinion but the GBU-39s are best to kill spaa in spawn. and the very large increase of laser guided bombs makes it way easier to kill leopard’s T-90Ms and anything with APS. :/

GBU-39s seem pretty useless for GRB, low yield, non-tracking, and slow, they seem like they’d be largely ineffective against a target that can move

I play the F-16c becuase id have the F15E. 4 GBU 39s can kill 2-4 spaa becuase they refuse to move. After I clean them up with guided bombs and Mavericks the F 15 E with the increase of guided bombs is better. Also you can bring 6 Mavericks while bringing GBU 39 while you can only bring three and four with the F-16

Though the F-16C has those still as well.

Not saying the F-16C is the superior CAS between the 2, but both are much stronger than a lot of dedicated strike aircraft, like the Tornado IDS for example.

But the ability to spawn in a F-16C, die and then respawn in the F-15E without the increased SP cost that comes from spawning in the same class of aircraft twice in a row. is very powerful. Its the only nation with a multirole classed a strike fighter whilst having a fairly equal performing multirole classed as a fighter. The only other is the Su-34 I think, but the soveits dont have a multirole “fighter”

(for example for Britain, if I spawned in a Typhoon, died and then tried to respawn in a Gripen C, the cost would have doubled, but the Tornado Gr4 wouldnt have but it has a fraction of the self defence ability the F-15E has)

Yet the 9040C gets to cost 70sp while unironically being the 3rd best or 2nd best Swedish 40mm ifv.

CV9035 is first because its fast and has a punchy gun. Then its the 9040B then the BILL II and then either the 9040C or the LVKV 9040C

🗑: MK.IV

Do they?

Israel can (F-15I Strike Fighter, F-16C/D Jet fighter)

Sweden can’t because all it gets at top tier is Gripen

France can’t quite, but for GRB purposes it does have two AASM Hammer carriers (Rafale, Jet Fighter and Mirage 2000D RMV, Strike Fighter). Not quite there. As far as spawning great CAS twice, though, it can do that.

Italy can’t. Closest it gets is Harrier is Strike Fighter.

China can. JF-17 (Strike Fighter) and J-10 Jet Fighter

Japan can’t. Could if it got F-15K

Britain can’t. but it can spawn two useful CAS (Tornado GR4 strike aircraft and Eurofighter jet fighter)

USSR can. Su-34( strike) and MiG-29SMT/Su-27SM (fighter)have F&F moving target air to ground weapons. Not as good, but the strike fighter is supersonic and has R-77s.

Germany can’t

USA can ofc

It’s a lot closer to being an everybody thing than you say. In most cases there are jets that could be added to get a country to that point.

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The LVKV 9040C is classed as an spaa, its 70SP to spawn. Its the same BR as the 9040C which is classed as a Light tank.

the best MBT at its BR

Israel I forgot about true.

China… Does the J-10 have any meaningful A2G at the moment? Didnt think it did. Certainly not on the level of the F-16C, Rafale, etc

USSR, I already said they have the strike fighter part, but are they dont have a multirole fighter like the F-16C (2x IR, 2x ARH AND 6x FnF AGMs)

So imo, its still only 2/10 nations that can properly acheive that level of performance.

Best IFV on sweden is the 9035DK, the 9040’s reload and slow mobility make them way less versatile than the MK.III

Interesting.

Tbf theres a trade off and if you’ve ever played them its pretty big.

LVKV gets around 220 rounds of either HE-VT or APFSDS, but they dont get the 170mm pen shell the 9040C gets, the radar dish also makes you impossible to hide on hills as it will get you killed by anyone with HEATFS or HE. Though you also get 2 more crew than the 9040C which is also limited to 120 rounds total and cant lock aircraft.

It’s the quantity of the weapons that the F15E can bring

The F16C best load out is 3x Mac’s 4 GBU-39s and 2 2000ib laser gbus which is a lot less killing potential than other countries, but still more than some.

The F15E best 2 load outs are imho is 6x mavs x4 GBU-39s and 8 GBU-12s. The other is 6x mavs 10x GBU-39s 1x 2000lb gbu 4x gbu-12.

But yes they are both good

what if move 2s38 up BR, give it overheat, limit apfsds belt and make spaa?

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Just move it up in BR and fix the overheating bug.

No need to buff it by making it an SPAA, and don’t ahistoricslly nerf it either.

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The 2S38 has survivability over the 9040’s. The 9040C’s have crewed turrets and slow and i mean slow reloads. From 0 rounds it takes 6 seconds to load 1 shell then 3 seconds before it begins loading the rest. It takes about 1 minute and 20 seconds to reload fully and thats IF the crew isn’t hurt or missing which slows the reload process. The 2S38 is essentially a mix of the 9040C and the LVKV. The LVKV gets to be an SPAA but has only 24 rounds before reload and doesn’t get the good round for AT like the 9040C. If all 9040’s could track aircraft and use the better AT round id say they should be .3 below the 2S38. Honestly the 2S38 has the lol pen fuel tank which eats rounds fairly often which makes them more annoying since they dont need to stop firing which imo makes them a bigger threat. Also their pen is very very good.

hmm i guess its finally time to buff xm885