Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

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4755

I agree. It is said that the JASDF requested that the F-2 be able to carry four AAM-4s.
However, there are also photos in the past showing them mounted on the outermost tips of the wings.
https://x.com/ula_niwa/status/1849367565086376194
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This one is carrying an AIM-7, but it seems that the AIM-7 and AAM-4 share the same interface.
https://x.com/nite103/status/1862465790873936201?s=46&t=7aMXWzAX3deGh6Z_hL_0Nw

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This means that in addition to the stations generally known to be AAM-4 capable, there may have been two more stations capable of carrying the AAM-4.

PS: ASM-2 x 4 + AIM-7 x 2 loadout was later removed from service as it was believed to cause flutter.

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4756

I see, I guess it deserves better maneuverability and more diverse payload options.

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4757

but on the topic

there are already vehicles in places that they shouldnt be where they are.
for example the SK105 in the german tech tree. Besides the fact, that stuff like TAM (which uses marder hull) is in the german tech tree, there is literally NO REASON for the argentinian sk105 to be in the german tt, sk 105 uses french tech and austrian hull, So even if it doesnt make sense, gaijin will still think of a reason to add something to a tech tree without strong reasoning.

4758

Well there’s no such thing as “instead of”.

4759

SU30SM

I’d do heinous acts for this as a marketplace skin
mihaly

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4760

There is priorities. Some things should be worked on sooner than others, and F-2 is something that should come before a Hornet from a nation that isn’t even a confirmed subtree yet.

I wouldn’t mind seeing it personally, Malaysia in general would be nice, but F-2 should be added first

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4761

Isn’t the Israeli F-15 better?

Sure, it’s very slightly heavier, but that is like 1% difference compared to it having 50% more countermeasures

4762

I think with J-10B they might have ran into trouble while modeling it, since information is so scarce.
After all, it was a transitional model that was quickly replaced in production by J-10C, which is an outright upgrade.

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4763

The Hornet shouldn’t be delayed just because F-2 isn’t ready though.
That is assuming both are intended.

So no, F-2 shouldn’t come first if it means it physically cannot be played while another intended aircraft is ready. That’d be anti-consumer practice.

And as I said, that’s assuming both are intended.

4764

US had Mavericks, and when Israel got those the US one got the AGM-130

so the Israeli one in slightly better in air but the US one is probably slightly better for ground, for a strike jet it’s hard to say one is definitely better than the other

The Chinese Flanker should be significantly better for air battles, which is probably why the J-11A didn’t receive any PL-12s or PL-8Bs, and given that these are both intended to be air superiority aircraft, I think it’ll be a bigger issue for the Russian player base

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4765

Its airframe is basicly as same as j10C, they are differ in radar, loadout and engines.

4766

J-10C shares the airframe with J-10B yes, though J-10C has new ECM, new radar, PL-10 + PL-15 capability and WS-10B in later production batch.

Also J-10C has improved CAS ability.

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4767

Don’t mavericks outrange SPAA anyways? And isn’t there a 20km hard limit?

I think there was a GPS + IR AGM-130, if that was in-game then you’d be completely right

4768

Pantsir’s 95Ya6 hard distance is 20km (effective is ~18km), + pantsir can shoot down mavericks

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4769

It should be able to shoot down agm-130 too. You only get 2 of those instead of 6 mavericks

4770

yes

4771

I suppose it’s a preference thing, though I’m not sure Mavericks do have the same range as the AGM-130, and they definitely don’t have the yield, though you do get more of them.

Israeli players also had to fight pretty hard to get Mavericks, whereas the US got the better engines at the first sign of there being an issue, so even with that example, where the two aircraft are relatively equal, it shows that the US is prioritized.

The J-11B should completely outshine the SU-30SM, so I wouldn’t assume too much about actually getting PL-12s and PL-8Bs just yet

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4772

It took a solid week of almost every US main complaining to get the -229 engines

The AGM-130 outrange maverick but doesn’t really matter because of 20km tgp limit and the 130 not having its GPS capabilities

4773

It was done before the patch went live wasn’t it?

the F-15I didn’t get Mavericks for way longer

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4774

Because it was way harder to prove it had mavericks than proving USAF F-15E had -229, and there are way more US players than Israel players

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