The rb75t uses the agm65b seeker in game for some reason. The rb75 uses the agm65a seeker.
i dont see much if any reason to play britain above like 9.3 anymore
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You play a nation because you like the nation and the vehicles, you don’t play it because it’s good. That’s how it is that’s how it always was. You can’t magically just expect a tank that isn’t really that good IRL to be magically better or on par with its other peers.
Also supposedly, the Challenger 2 hull did not see armour improvements over the Challenger 1 so technically in game it is already substantially overperforming, but I digress. I play the Leopard 2s because I like the Leopard 2s, I don’t play the Leopard 2s because I find it meta (and it isn’t since the Abrams will become better).
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But it is certainly not encouraging to play it when it’s performing worse than it should.
In Challenger 2’S case, for example, just off the top of my head;
-First order ammorack is too small (3).
-First order ammorack takes TWICE as much to reload than any other tank (26s per shell)
-Lower Front Plate spall liners are still missing despite blatant photographical evidence of them.
-L27A1 won’t get its anti-ERA tip because “marketing lies”.
-L27A1 is underperforming.
-Gun elevation speed is underperforming; Gaijin gave it CHIEFTAIN values even though CR1s got improved speed already. Instead of thinking CR2 would have CR1’s values, they gave them Chieftain values.
-Mantlet armor is underperforming because the trunnion pins are hollow, leading it to be hollow.
-TES/OES/2F modules (side and front) are all underperforming, each in a different way despite being the same module, by the way.
-Even though CR3TD got a proper turret armor module adécuate to it, they for some reason reverted it back to a pre-rework CR2 turret, so now the physical model doesn’t even match the armor damage model.
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i honestly dont even know where to begin here almost everything you said was wrong.
the challenger has proved on par sometimes better than its peers irl throughout its history.
idk where the hell you got this from but its just straight up wrong
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Its hull armour is underperforming (should be around 580-600mm as its missing a 50mm ufp plate)
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its turret armour is underperforming (the breech armour is sitting at i think 280mm at the moment whereas it should also be around 580-600mm)
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its gun handling is rumoured to be underperforming specifically in the vertical traverse
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its missing spall liners on both the UFP and the side of the hull
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its ROF is underperforming as its missing around 20 rounds in its first stage and it takes double the time to replenish it
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its mobility is underperforming due to lack of regenerative steering (this goes for all mbt) and a few other things
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its round is underperforming both in raw penetration and the fact its ANTI-ERA tip got denied
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the challenger 2 TES armour kit is MASSIVELY underperforming
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the CR3 has the turret DM of the pre rework challenger 2
i seriously dont know what you mean, as for “the tanks not that good irl” its proven better than both the abrams and leopard in some aspects in IRON-SPEAR 2023 and a certain conflict going on right now
and you play the leopards because there the best MBT in the game and probably still will be even after the SEPV3 comes out
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what tank combat has the Chally 2 seen
No I play the Leopards because I am in a country that operates the Leopard 2s, so naturally I am biased and leaning towards it. That doesn’t mean I only play the Leopard 2s, I’ve grinded all 10 nations to try out every MBT in game, including ZTZ99A, Ariete AMV, Challenger 2s, Merkava Mk.4 etc
I know someone who has the documents and iirc it’s only very recently declassified. I don’t have it on hand so I won’t comment too much until they make a report on it. As for everything else about the fixes and buffs or what not, I’ll say the Leopard 2s are missing a bunch of them as well so it’s not an exclusivity issue.
Iraq (BASRA)
bosnia and kosovo
and the current one which i dont think i can speak of
A lot of fights against sheep herders with RPGs and not much else
In fairness, this is the Challenger 2E which had a different power pack and cooling, so it’s not very representative.
Still out accelerated the M1A2 however
Tank on Tank combat not Tank on Inf
It’s fought against glorious T-55s the most
oh no not the T-55s good thing UK built a tank to take them out looks at the chally mk 2 and mk3
if you can find the document ill have a look at it but from what i know the challenger 1 and challenger 2 only look similar and share almost nothing irl, the challengers hull armour was upgraded with next generation chobham
(i think) this is a shot from a t80 on a challenger in that place near russia on the ufp and non penned it.
this is the challenger 2E. that used a completely different powerpack and the “Ammunition problems” i believe was because the british used L23A1 and something was outdated i dont remember the thing correctly
the challenger 2 in the british army won iron spear in 2023 performed very well in every conflict its been in and is continuing to do so, no its not gonna outperform the 2a7 as it was built in the 90s.
i cant send it here but i have a video of a challenger blowing up 2 T-80s if that means anything
I repect it and the opinion. I get it from the Challenger POV.
I have been waiting for the SEPv3 for 2 years now so it coming, alongside a turret ring fix, is just the biggest update in years for me. Even if they make the LFP ~500mm vs KE max it will already be a considerable upgrade.
I only care about the F-16AM because it’s dutch. I doubt I would even have grinded whatever new French vehicle Gaijin could have added unless it’s a new/better Leclerc.
Depends on which vehicle. The Excelsior will be commiting warcrimes of biblical proportion upon 4.0 with APHE so I doubt it will take long for that to move up.
I ment before 2022
Me looking at Ru251 being revived and renewed with greater powers (90mm APHE):
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they also destroyed T-72 in 2003. (lots of them)
the sepv3 will be great and im happy for my australians out there that they get to use there most modern mbt but as a brit i dont have reason to play any of the challengers anymore and thats sad.
oh i garuntee it will but theres some vehicles that wont need to go up but i wouldnt put it past gaijin to do it anyway
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