Morning @Smin1080p_WT Could you forward us if the J-22M1 is still planned for 10.7 GRB BR? many people are interested in that plane for the 10.7 Lineup and it’d be a shame if they preorder it and they wake up to a different BR :) tysm
Day 22, Singaporean subtree for Israel.
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I’ve already pre-ordered, and if the official release isn’t 10.7, I’m going to smack the gaijin’s ass hard with my belt.
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I would be surpriesed if it stays 10.7 for long, it gives me BMPT vibes
True Asian style, it’s either the belt or the heat seeking sandals.
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2s38, t80ud, things like that, stayed on 10.3 for a really, really long time
I’m actually more worried that because of the ajs37 gift pack, my good life with the ajs37 has been ruined, and gaijin has started paying attention to this plane’s combat efficiency.
its just 4x HE TV mavs at 10.7 with supersonic aircraft, not that big of a deal tbf
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Although i’ll admit RB 75T warhead increases lethality a lot even with the BAD TV seeker head
Dont worry, it is here for 10.7, as it is made for the 10.7 premnium 2A4 leopard lineup for CAS.
my excitement for this update at first was the hiighest its been in like 2 years and now… i dont even know.
The update trailer made me so happy becuse we were getting ARM we were getting new top tier mbt and finally the super tomcat etc.
the first dev stream and dev server i was dissapointed because not only was the challengers getting a turret basket but i didnt mind because the mantlet was getting a pretty considerable buff but then they made my favorite naval aircraft locked behind a paywall i personally cant afford.
by the i think 3rd dev server i was fed up and tired and i dont even know if im gonna update the game
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The challengers mantlet got nerfed and is now considerably weaker than on live server
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The challenger got more modules than just a turret basket
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The F14D still isnt on the tech tree
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Relikt got a buff
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They called the L27A1 report a marketing lie
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They nerfed the MIG-29K to the point where its just a sidegrade to the sqaudron one and only a slight upgrade to the SMT
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They refuse to give the tornado GR1 any form of an ARM
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There scared to give the typhoon any sort of ground ordinance more than 8 spices (16 SPICES, BRIMSTONE 2, anything more than 2 HARMS)
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there giving stuff like the Type 10 even more un needed modules
Theres a few more things i might be missing but overall this update started as such a high for me then went very downhill very very fast i mean dont get me wrong im happy britain is getting an aussie SEPV3 but the trade off for it was the performance of every challenger (the CR1 CR2 & CR3) i will never support the F14D being a premium there going directly against what i think most britain mains want with the Tornado GR.1 getting 4-5 alarms and going to 11.7 isreal and france have both gone another update getting basically nothing (NO a premium F16 and a 4th spike launcher for isreal doesnt count) russias getting i think the best ARM the pantsir SM-SV is still to powerful the BMPT taded off accuracy for even better armour with the relikt buff and its turret DM still isnt fixed sure were getting NUKE THUNDER back but its just worse now the Leopard 2RI could be a fun vehicle to play but overall its just a 122 style hull on a 2PL turret britains getting APHE which is great now but how long before they uptier everything to much then they become worse than pre APHE performance.
overall this update for me has gone to one of my favourites in a long time to something im not going to even play and its mostly because gaijins not listening to the community on a few things like okay sure the F14 got AIM-9M but it was ONLY after we got a premium one when the F14B should have got access years ago and on the F14 topic they made the F14D better than the B but made it a premium which btw is something they said they werent going to do yk when they said they dont want to make top tier premiums take anything away from there tech tree counterpart but hey they did it anyway going against basically everyone, and yes the SEPV3 is getting a hull armour upgrade but we dont even know how much its gonna be improved, and just aabout every good thing asked for on britain this update was denied.
sorry for the big long rant but i wanted to express my opinion anyway
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No :(
I mean Gaijin is pretty consistent with disappointing player so a good chance they could do that
It won’t though unless gaijin believes everything that it has is a marketing lie
The upgrade from the CR1 to CR2 is thermals and a new round that is it.
The rb75t uses the agm65b seeker in game for some reason. The rb75 uses the agm65a seeker.
i dont see much if any reason to play britain above like 9.3 anymore
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You play a nation because you like the nation and the vehicles, you don’t play it because it’s good. That’s how it is that’s how it always was. You can’t magically just expect a tank that isn’t really that good IRL to be magically better or on par with its other peers.
Also supposedly, the Challenger 2 hull did not see armour improvements over the Challenger 1 so technically in game it is already substantially overperforming, but I digress. I play the Leopard 2s because I like the Leopard 2s, I don’t play the Leopard 2s because I find it meta (and it isn’t since the Abrams will become better).
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But it is certainly not encouraging to play it when it’s performing worse than it should.
In Challenger 2’S case, for example, just off the top of my head;
-First order ammorack is too small (3).
-First order ammorack takes TWICE as much to reload than any other tank (26s per shell)
-Lower Front Plate spall liners are still missing despite blatant photographical evidence of them.
-L27A1 won’t get its anti-ERA tip because “marketing lies”.
-L27A1 is underperforming.
-Gun elevation speed is underperforming; Gaijin gave it CHIEFTAIN values even though CR1s got improved speed already. Instead of thinking CR2 would have CR1’s values, they gave them Chieftain values.
-Mantlet armor is underperforming because the trunnion pins are hollow, leading it to be hollow.
-TES/OES/2F modules (side and front) are all underperforming, each in a different way despite being the same module, by the way.
-Even though CR3TD got a proper turret armor module adécuate to it, they for some reason reverted it back to a pre-rework CR2 turret, so now the physical model doesn’t even match the armor damage model.
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i honestly dont even know where to begin here almost everything you said was wrong.
the challenger has proved on par sometimes better than its peers irl throughout its history.
idk where the hell you got this from but its just straight up wrong
ok.
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Its hull armour is underperforming (should be around 580-600mm as its missing a 50mm ufp plate)
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its turret armour is underperforming (the breech armour is sitting at i think 280mm at the moment whereas it should also be around 580-600mm)
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its gun handling is rumoured to be underperforming specifically in the vertical traverse
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its missing spall liners on both the UFP and the side of the hull
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its ROF is underperforming as its missing around 20 rounds in its first stage and it takes double the time to replenish it
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its mobility is underperforming due to lack of regenerative steering (this goes for all mbt) and a few other things
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its round is underperforming both in raw penetration and the fact its ANTI-ERA tip got denied
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the challenger 2 TES armour kit is MASSIVELY underperforming
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the CR3 has the turret DM of the pre rework challenger 2
i seriously dont know what you mean, as for “the tanks not that good irl” its proven better than both the abrams and leopard in some aspects in IRON-SPEAR 2023 and a certain conflict going on right now
and you play the leopards because there the best MBT in the game and probably still will be even after the SEPV3 comes out
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what tank combat has the Chally 2 seen
No I play the Leopards because I am in a country that operates the Leopard 2s, so naturally I am biased and leaning towards it. That doesn’t mean I only play the Leopard 2s, I’ve grinded all 10 nations to try out every MBT in game, including ZTZ99A, Ariete AMV, Challenger 2s, Merkava Mk.4 etc
I know someone who has the documents and iirc it’s only very recently declassified. I don’t have it on hand so I won’t comment too much until they make a report on it. As for everything else about the fixes and buffs or what not, I’ll say the Leopard 2s are missing a bunch of them as well so it’s not an exclusivity issue.