Its 3TD, not the 3
3 is still in development
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Love to see it
The Challenger 3 “TD” we have ingame is an incorrect designation for what is actually called either the Challenger 2 LEP (Under Rheinmetall) or the Challenger 2 ATD (under RBSL)
All gaijin’s naming of the “3TD” does it cause confusion while being inaccurate
In real life it was never called the Challenger 3 Technology Demonstrator
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basically the initial proto(s),
the current variant (in testing) is also a proto but inching closer to being the final product (sans the APS)
2 aussie abrams and a huge nerf to every challenger, yay…
maybe a bit over exxagerating but surely you understand me a bit here i meant come on
all the challengers are getting turret baskets despite them already being called the worst top tier tanks
the tornado gr1 not recieving the ALARM due to balance as it would need to go up in br but britain doesnt have 11.3 ground anyway
the typhoon still not recieving 16 spice bombs when america, isreal, sweden and china have access to 10-20 of them the F15E and F15I specificlly getting access to 26 FNF munitions this update
along with the challenger nerf were getting no buffs to justify it other than a small mantlet fix that we dont even know will go on live as the challenger got its hull and mantlet fixed in its rework then was removed on live (the mantlet armour was sitting around 580-600mm and the hull armour was around the same but we got the watered down thing we have now) and not to mention it still lacking its spall liners and ready rack
the challenger 3 is still really sucky and after the nerf will be basically useless unless it gets like a 5s reload or an armour buff or literally anything to help
im not calling this a “bad” update for britain that was an over exaggeration but trading the performance of every challenger for 2 abrams im not a huge fan of and hey if you agree with me heres some things to help out if you want to Smin to idk see if we can get some more buffs in for top tier
Challenger 2:
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Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
Community Bug Reporting System
M1A1 AIM: (britain)
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Eurofighter Typhoon:
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were getting some great additions with the APHE and the 2 abrams but were also getting challenger nerfs which as you know im not a fan of.
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You knew the baskets were being added, gaijin stated everyone would get them, you voted for them they got added to everyone so don’t act like it’s a targeted nerf
@Smin1080p_WT Not sure if you have already answered this, but any news on the hull armor of the sepv3/v2 yet? it still has the unrealistic hull armor and a lot of people are wondering if its gonna be fixed
i never voted for turret baskets i dont want them on anything
thank you
No sadly its hard to sometimes. Things directly asked for and requested by you and other Brits are added but somehow its still “terrible”. When things that were asked for are basically skipped over and ignored to move on to the next negative, It gets to a point where no matter what is done, the reaction is bad. Leading to suggest that the requests either are not genuine or something else. If there is no positive feedback at all when things that were asked for come, its very hard to see exactly what it is you want to see, when you just move on to the negatives.
All top MBTs are being updated with new modules. We announced this long ago and it has already come to several MBT series over the past majors. The Challenger is no exception to this too.
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I do hope we see the actual prototypes soon
They had a lot of features the CR3 “TD” is missing
- blowout panels
- new composite
- ERA
- LWS
- roof armour addons
- improved engine
Just to name a few
The update to the Challenger 2’s trunnion is very welcome, the protection is certainly better than it was.
However, it still doesn’t meet the protection levels from the various reports that have been done on the subject (and accepted). It’s a lot closer than it was, but ideally it would have been corrected in a way that was in line with those reports.
Regardless I’m glad it got an improvement, even if it isn’t all the way there.
We are reviewing all reports that come in, but thus far most have not included any meaningful figures, estimates, values etc for what is improved and by how much. The common terms of “improved” armour are used, but nothing substantial on what to improve specifically and by how much. But we are continuing to review everything submitted in terms of both feedback and reports.
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yes, Rebuilt to CV12-9A specifications to improve reliability, but not more power
Then you should’ve gotten the game sooner so you could vote
The trunnion ingame was modelled of this image (as far as I’m aware), which is a little bit questionable as the trunnion pictured is not complete.
That’s likely why there are the large empty spaces, where either the mantlet pins would expand into or some other component would fit into.
This gives the mantlet two huge areas of weakness, which in reality almost certainly aren’t present in the mantlet when it is complete and in the vehicle.
We don’t really have super concrete figures on the power, the lead of the CR3 programme has said that the engine CAN make more power. However, exactly what the power will be isn’t known for certain.
so what you are saying is that it will not get improved hull armor unless someone posts classified documents about the KE protection of a tank that only entered service ~10 years ago
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Is A-7E a part of this group?
Thats not correct. We don’t accept classified documentation and never will. All that will happen there is you will be banned and anything removed and deleted.
Estimates, approximates or percentage improves are all things that are accepted. Any and all public sources are factored in: [Development] Reports concerning the protection of post-war combat vehicles - News - War Thunder