Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Nope, Most Chinese have already given up on that, ZTZ99A already become a joke in the Chinese forum, and there is no hope, nothing can be buffed, with more documents released, there may be something can be nerffed in the future, like the reversing speed and gun speed.

Perhaps both. It’d be a fantastic addition to China and a great way to cap the Taiwan MBT line.

Unless you are 100% on a sunny day and there are no fighters in the sky, consider the bad weather chance increase to over 50%, GBU now is pretty useless, and agm65B can lock the target far from 6km

Not most, I think it’s just trolls that only want “making a super strong TT by what ever”, they don’t know any military history or machinery, just want play without brain, complain about everything
they are bringing shame on everyone here trying to polish Chinese TT, or even everyone polishing the game.

I wonder what will happen when the Chinese get the M829A4 before the US XD

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They cried out about how weak the vehicle was, as a way to hope that gaijin would see it and actively improve it. The Chinese player community had submitted many issues requesting anti-caving liners and thicker main armor, but none of them were taken into account by gaijin. As a result, most Chinese players switched to playing the Soviet tech tree.
Thats just my observation…

it won’t be 829a4, it’s restricted for export, only kewa4

Italy completly canceled 2a8 orders.
They joined the kf51 crew with rheinmetall

Besides that multiple things i just wanna name but u did say not all included.

Germany
-leo 2 revolution
-leo 2 atd
-leopard 2 arc 3.0
-chally 130 strictly seen german uk had nothing to do with it but can have it

France
-leclerc evolution

And yeah italy remove 2a8 add kf51

Well, based on the forum, they are now working to units together to have only one voice and criticism for any attempt to abandon the idea, like Ideological targeting( My Chinese is not so good so I can only understand they are quite angry with the official forum’s reply), and also they are already abandoned to hope gaijin add other local product, like VT4B or better SPAA, I can understand why they want add leo2 ( to be honest its gaijin’s fault, they never care Chinese voice till recent months)

Fire and forget missiles don’t work in bad weather, and AGM-65A & B don’t work at night.
GBUs are further range and superior against tanks.

could also add the embt with a 140 version (germany and france)

edited, cause i misread the original post

According to the list, it seems that they already purchase about 60 rounds M829A4, but someone said it just for training.

Ah yeah forgot the unmanned embt 140mm.
That being said i am unsure if that one was fully functional yet.
In the case of leo 2arc 3 amd leclerc evolution we know they are fully functional and csn shoot as well

i think they’re missing their sights for now, but i also remember KNDS wanting to test the 140 ascalon on the move using this platform in 2024/2025, so we’ll see i suppose

FF missiles can launched at low alt, and no need to consider SPAA after launch, while using GBU need to approach closer and suffer SPAA shotting when using laser guide system, you can just ban night battles, so it doesn’t matter if work in night, GBU fly times is too long and can only carry 2 bombs( only for Q-5, I assume you comparing with the A4N we already have)

it’s a different round, there are different kews, KEW is tungsten M829A1, KEWA1 is DM43A1, KEWA2 is tungsten M829A2, KEWA3 is improved KEWA2 with different propelling charge, KEWa4 is DM63.
M829A4 is not allowed to export, it’s more like fake news.

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Can we exchange all of these copypaste to stuff similar to Japanese Ho-ri, R2Y2 and F-16AJ? Pretty sure, many people would like to have P.43bis, Aerfer Leone and G.95 ;)

I think the phenomenon you described does exist. These players only care about whether the vehicle is OP or not. In other words, they will play with any OP vehicle from any country. They are typical target users of Gaijin.

That’s what I said, they already give up, that’s why they chose like leo2 for them, to be honest, there are just a few choices for them, like T80UD( 2td engine), M1A2T… other things still lack documents, even ZTZ-15 or VT4B.

they are not related, these domestic things can be polished. and L2A4 is not needed in it’s BR.
they give up because they never really care about these, they do nothing but only daydream. now when they don’t get what they want, they turn their back, and in most time, they never content, they complain even after something is polished.