Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I don’t think it can be any worse than it currently is given the backlash the community has given just from leaks alone, not even official news.

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What I saw say they are working on to upgraded Ariete as IMBT.

No, two different projects.
They plan to improve the Ariete thanks to the AMV (part 2, 3 etc…). This is just to make sure that our Arietes can actually stay up to standards for the years to come, they are testing a lot of cool stuff.

The IMBT is in no way connected to the Ariete.

one for near future and one for further?

(Takes a White Pill)

AIM-9L, AIM-7M, AGM-65B, unguided bombs and rockets

Magic II, MICA EM, no A2G (Mirage 2000Ei)

PL-8, PL-12, unguided bombs/rockets, guided bombs (J-10A)

AIM-9M, AIM-120C5, AGM-65G, unguided bombs/rockets, guided bombs

(White Pill wearing off)

(Reposted in more-appropriate wishlist thread)

Yeah I saw that news, hopefully it won’t take too long to introduce the new MBT to public. Would be also interesting to see if it makes any influence on Hungarian KF51 and maybe attracts Romania seeking for new MBTs.

Hopefully, I’ve looked at the DPP and the money is there.

I found some Chinese reactions to the Singapore Leopard 2A4 on Baidu

New Information Old Middle Leopard II A4 (Singapore Leopard)

r/warthunder netizens’ views on Singapore Leopard 2A4

As a friendly reminder, the latest leaked Chinese Singapore Leopard 2A4

Responses seem mixed.

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Honestly, that’s what i expected. Some want they’re domestic vehicles, and others just want their nation to have it all.

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Speaking of baidu has that Chinese dude posted anything ?

Not recently

Bit odd

I suspect all the ‘leaks’ are connected. Just some of them come through Chinese communities and some through Western communities.

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possibly from same source, some specific outsource workshop and employee

Responses seem to fall under a few categories.

  1. Some are in favour of Singapore coming to China, because of the cultural ties and China’s relatively small tree.
  2. Some see China’s tech tree as lacking but don’t think Singapore is the answer, there are better options like more Chinese domestic and export vehicles.
  3. Some are opposed to Leopard 2s being handed out everywhere to every nation. Or are just generally opposed to all the copypaste going on.

One person refers to Gszabi as ‘the Hungary guy’ which I thought was amusing.
(Yes I am aware Gszabi is Hungarian)

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Not to mention the Merkava Mk.4M with the Iron fist APS and the Mk.4M 400 could also be considered top tier additions for Israel tho tbf. There’s also plenty of other top tier MBTs from other nations that don’t have homes in the game yet. Turkey, Koreas, Iran, etc…

some kind of Chinese cultural habit of calling someone by where he from

Have to say, Leo2 in CN TT is much more like T90S in UK TT, There’s a lot options for both, Soviet style vheicle in UK is incongruous too, add M1A2T as a squadron vehicle maybe better.

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I think it’s a fake Stona, there are lots of name cosply in Chinese community, like tons of B**D

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Is there any Chinese vehicle that can replace leo2? Till now the only one is the mbt2000, I don’t think other export vehicles have a similar status.