I personally don’t think China needs a sub tree at all, given they have enough funky wheeled stuff to make an entire line all on its own. If they needed a subtree I would have picked Pakistan for a less controversial option will equipment actually related to China.
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again we have tried and tried to get light tanks, it took gaijin 5 YEARS to introduce the desert warrior since the regular warrior was added, we still dont have the stormer 30 that uses the exact same turret as the VCC80-30 that italy got years ago just on a stormer hull, I doubt gaijin will ever put the effort in to model the Ajax if it took them this long to make an IFV that uses more then 50% of the same model as the base warrior and still haven’t added another IFV that has the hull and turret already here in game.
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I come back, and we’re already at 1000+ replies on this topic, then I see why…
Like, in all honesty, why does Gaijin think adding Singapore of all nations to China is even a remotely good idea? And an even better question: why do they feel the need to add a Leopard 2A4 of all things? For example, if you want a decent-ish squadron vehicle, how about the VT-5? Or there’s even the 85M-II with the GL5 APS and a number of other vehicles that would work even better than a base Leopard 2A4.
As for Sub-TTs, first off, does China even need a Sub-TT at the moment? Considering the scores of unimplemented Chinese tanks, there’s enough to keep China competitive for quite a while. Plus, there’s a multitude of other nations that could be added as Sub TTs. Overall, it just seems like Gaijin is trying to shoehorn in a Sub-TT for a nation that doesn’t need it at the moment. Just my two cents
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CR2s are better than the Arietes, though the 4 round ready rack is an insane nerf that needs to removed.
It the CR3TD that is worse than the Ariete though.
that’s honestly the wildest thing, gave that to the Arietes AND Merk 4s just to keep them at the top BR somehow, yet the CR3TD didn’t get it and is now an 11.7 thats coming at the end of the line after two 12.0s. Stupid double standards like always.
the 3TD is worse than the AMV only because of the fact gaijin chose not to just buff it’s reload (I still have no idea why they did this btw). Were that change made, it’d be better (not by much mind you)
But at the same time they left it at 11.7 (for some reason) which means it doesn’t even get compared to the AMV, it gets compared to the WAR and PSO which are absolute meme tanks since they don’t even have the AMVs mobility going for them
Edit: I really don’t know why they didn’t just uptier the 3TD and give it a 5 second reload like they did for all 3 merkava IVs and the 3 Arietes)
Edit 2: Like it’s baffling because the 3TD comes after 2 12.0s… we’re not gonna use it at 11.7, we already have 3 tech tree 11.7 MBTs we don’t need a 4th… we’d rather this one be useful at 12.0
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you aren’t always going top speed in War Thunder, low speed mobility is just as important.
That ammo is exclusively APFSDS, which doesn’t explode. The HESH charges are stowed in the hull, directly under the gun and around the driver.
Generally agree with the rest though.
while I get the complaints, I still would rather have the better gun and mobility (excluding a single challenger variant) and like you said italy has a 2A7 and some of the best IFVs in the game
Yep, this is what im saying, its kinda insane
Also the CR2 BN has this lovely little “gimmick” (the actual video is way longer, this happens 4 times in the span of 25 seconds)
And that subtree being shoehorned has been directly removed from development for another nation according to the same source the China leak is from. This behavior from Gaijin is at best not thought through and at worst intentionally harmful.
China has many options, domestic as well as other subtrees, they do not need to take away from others.
I’m sure unless there is something shady going on behind the scenes Gaijin will notice their mistake and adjust it. And if something else is behind it, Gaijin can still rethink it and decide to not send the game down such a dark path.
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Just give Britain this:
And we’ll just take a rover with a milan at top tier instead of any MBTs :P
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you need a range of over 1700m im pretty sure for the dart to slow down enough for the APS to intercept it, its cool but only works if you are sniping
what dart were you using?
because its also dependent on how fast the dart you are using is
KE-W from the 2A4M
yeah that would be why its only 1585m/s the iron fist can intercept projectiles at 1700m/s (given enough range)
DM53 from an L44 for example has 1670m/s which if with in a 1km normally doesnt have the reaction time to shoot down
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It takes ~437ms to reach the BN, so enough time for the APS to detect and intercept
which one lol? I assume you mean KE-W