Definitely not THE weakest MBT.
The Ariete AMV is definitely still the weakest MBT at 12.0 and at 11.7 both Arietes are still inferior to the majority 11.3s
Su-30MKK does not mount R-37
this, this, this, and this again
Would be useful for SAMs too
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Over 100+ vehicles for China - but it has to be an Leo 2!
I don’t care that its just a rumor - if that actually is true its just laugthable.
Gaijin has one of the most passionate community any game has ever had (literally people going to prison for treason, by leaking documents) - the team nearly doesn’t have to do any work anymore (not that they research a lot anymore anyway…looking at you Sholef). But they still decide to go with copy&paste because its the easierst and cheapest option…there is no passion left…and it hurts.
I spend days, months in this game - I love it, I’m addicted to it - and I wish Gaijin would actually put a bit more effort in it without getting slapped by some sort of drama from the community.
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Ariete AMV has mobility and fire power to go with it’s other shortcomings.
better mobility, better ammo, same reload, same thermals, worse armour, bigger ready rack. Idk
4 of them aren’t that bad. Only the F/OES/TES which are way too fat with too little benefit really suck. But so do the Arietes and the Merk 4s.
And fixing that problem is much better done by decompression (just admit that not every end of the line MBT is equal, Gaijin, it’s not that hard) than by destroying the uniqueness of other techtree’s top tier even more.
Yeah, but this makes or breaks it because it gives the same protection as a tin foil hat
I put the CR3TD just below the Ariette these days, at least the ariette AMV because it has better mobility and the 5 second reload with DM53. 2 things the CR3TD doesnt have. The CR3TD has marginally better armour
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the challengers are a one shot to the hull due to the bag charges, I would gladly take far better mobility a far better round and the same reload with more ammo over better turret armour
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“bigger ready rack”
yeah you left out that part where the Ariete cannot take a hit, and if it does take a hit it dies instantly because it has no blowout rack… while having the most vulnerable ammo placement at top tier-
CR3TD has no blow out panels, No spall liners and basically no armour.
I’ve bounced on a challenger but never a Ariete. What we are doing is stupid lol… are we really arguing about which tank is worst. They both need to be fixed on top of some others. (Like the Abram’s getting its proper DU armor)
im sorry? the challengers also dont have blow out panels and also have ammo in the hull you cant get rid of? like you seem to think the challengers can take any kind of penetrating shot, and im gonna be real the mantlet is massive it isnt that hard to kill a challenger only noobs are gonna hit the cheeks and if its DM53 from an L55 it doesnt even matter lol
Buff it )))))
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question here for the class… has anyone here besides me who is talking about the Ariete… ever played it?
Edit: Because it’s hard to have a genuine discussion comparing 2 vehicles if you only have experience with one and not the other-
im going off of what my friend has been telling me its like since the update and he much prefers the Arietes to the challengers since the changes
a new stryker confirmed
Lmao
Honestly, they should just make the back ammorack also be first-order stage, as it is in real life.
The 4 shot first-order stage is one of Challenger 2’s biggest handicaps. After 4 shots, you basically get a T-72-level reload, except on a much worse tank and even worse if your loader is dead or hurt xD
The fact that the first order ammorack takes more than twice as slong to fill compared to every other tank doesn’t help either.
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see it was balanced before when the challenger was the only tank with a 5 second manual loading, now that the majority of tanks do the ready rack needs to be increased or decrease the reload further
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