Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

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probably 3x kh38 range?

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it could have been a revenge class, that would have been cool

Imo it is fair, the KH-38 already exists and outranges every SAM in the game but for “balance” reasons the brimstone cant be adjusted/ nerfed in such a way to do the same and not be limited to laser guidance

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What they need to do is nerf the KH-38, not let other nations have similar gamebreaking weapons

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Pantsir situation is still a valid concern though. Su-34 + best AA is on the Russian side, other countries should get their equivalents to the Pantsir by now. China can get FK-2000, US can get SLAMRAAM, etc.

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That would work even better

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the thing is you cannot “copy” renown really, since repulse never got massive refit that we see in the trailer

u genius confused typhoon and tornado

The SDBs shown in the video are GPS guidance only. I mean, ok I guess, main thing it has going for it is the count.

SAM outranging was one aspect. Brimstone has a greater launch range than some SAMs too.

There were many aspects to weapons like Brimstones that Kh-38 does not have.

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Meanwhile Germany with their Tornado: what is dead cannot die

Yup. The whole “they have an op thing so I should get an even more op thing” argument isn’t great.

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Is that also ray tracing we see :o

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the Tornado GR1 in its current state exists at battle rating 11.3, the GR4 is getting 9Ms, HMD, new weapons (the main one being the brimstone missile) which means it will sit bare minimum at 12.0. 12.0 ground REGULARLY sees 12.7 uptiers meaning it’s going to frequently be fighting these better newer jets.

They do have every right to complain and be upset when the decision of the devs was to choose the worst way to circumvent a problem possible, while pandering to the nations that were already leagues ahead of everyone else by giving them even better toys.

It’s disheartening to see devs and community managers giving the cold shoulder to very valid critiques of the games balance.

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In ground RB the Su-34, F15E and Tornado Gr4 will all be around the same br and will no matter what see each other, the tornado can carry 2 x 9Ms 2 x GBUs and 9 Laser guided brimstones, compared to lets see a plane with far better agility, 4 x 9Ms 6 mavrics and 16 SDBs (all of which can be FNF) and then the Su34 with 4 R73s and 6 of the best AGMs in the game, but no adding a nerfed FnF for the brimstone was unfair and unbalanced and wouldnt be fair to SPAA right?

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Any clue whether the grom is the glider or powered one?

Honestly, I hope so

One day I’ll get a 625e and be truly happy.

Can we hope for something juicy for the 2000D RMV like AASM or it’s just gonna be the saddest add of all the new CAS planes, way worst than the -5F for A2A loadout and i can smell it: at the same BR.

Which is completely fair but I think forcing a fire and forget weapon to be purely laser guided is kind of harsh, I understand how powerful it could be but imo it could have been modeled as TV guided or similar to SPIKE or PARS

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