Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

So F-15EX that has yet to enter service is inferior to the Typhoon because its based upon an airframe from the 1970s?

Then Sea Harrier FA2 which is based upon an airframe from the 1960s should be lowered to fight F-86s then

production started 2004 iirc

It’s always puzzling why people hyperfocus on date of introduction and not vehicle performance.

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Well yes but im being spiteful and including testing :p

They were in service with RAF from 2003, so I dont think so

but was that IPA-5 or the first tranche 1s?

Wiki, so take it with a pinch of salt.

Development started in 1983
First flew 1994
entered production 1998
entered service 2003

If you’ve ever seen how any of the advanced eagles fly… You almost wouldn’t believe that they are the same airframe.

they got Thrust vectoring now or what?

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Very advanced digital fly-by-wire. F-15QA, EX are now capable of very high AOA, far beyond the original eagles.

(See 2:06, and that’s with 12 AMRAAMs.)

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Watching US Mains justify needing F-18E to take on Typhoon DAs

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F-15EX/F-18E stick measuring contest with EFT

the available sides are:

  • EFT Tranche 1 will Mop the floor with all of them
  • F-15EX is so much better, it flies so good
  • Shay Talking about what to me seems random details
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Hmm, interesting

now I’d take that as a compliment if you count in their maths

that would mean the first peoduction variant will overpower anything but F-22

gotta wait for when they hear about Tranche 4

True, normally it’s trying to convince the Americans that their kit isn’t automatically the best. It’s weird having to do the opposite.

Gen 7 fighters needed just for T2 typhoons

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Block II Super Hornet vs Tranche 1 Typhoon when

what Block typhoon? Block 5?

Woah there, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Gen 9 at least.

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F/A-18F when so I can recreate my Battlefield 3 fantasies