Nice strawman here bud but uhhh…
Nobody is saying these nations can’t get good things-
But you’re downplaying how good what you’re asking for truly is, and taking any counter argument to your suggestion as people thinking “we just cant have good things”
when the reality is “we want everyone to have good things”
While simultaneously overrating how good what you’re arguing against is btw. (The F/A-18C is not going to be good at air to air)
You should change your name to Rafale.
But unfortunately the Mig-29K is not competitive compared to the F-18/J-15, it is not powerful enough. Maybe the flankers used by the Navy can replace this?
It’s probably already take :p
You can always add seven hyphens.
It’s a sexy ass plane. It gets my vote, even though I can’t imagine I’m grinding the French line any time soon.
If it comes with the Su-30SM and the EFT, we could even have a whole Euro-Canard patch as we’ve all joked from time to time.
the naval flankers suck, the 29K has 8 pylons and at least can use R-77s unlike the naval flankers.
Id still love to have it regardless, imo the sexiest Flankers are Canard Flankers
Either aircraft like the Typhoon, Rafale and Gripen E are so OP that nothing on the US TT currently could fight it and that we need to wait for a new aircraft to be added or they would be fine sooner rather than later vs the soon to be added aircraft such as the F-15E or F-18C.
You cant have it both ways.
So tell me, what is the bare minimum you would want on the US TT before 5/10 nations are allowed their next native top tier fighters?
And of the S. Korean public? That’s the most important thing as they are going to be the ones who will be buying the S. Korean vehicles the most. My point was that their relationship isn’t in a good enough position to make a subtree make sense. Even if their militaries are getting a long recently, that does not undo the decades of mistrust or mean that it would be uncontroversial in the lucrative S. Korean market.
No? The airframe is superior to the F-15C. Soonest it can be added would be the F/18, and even then that would be pushing it seeing as how the F/18 is from the 70s. Best time to add it would be along with the Super Hornet as the two aircraft came out at about the same time, meaning they have the greatest parity.
And whoever said that is a moron. It’s an airframe from the 90s/early 2000s, it should only be added when comparable aircraft are being added as well. I don’t see how that is unreasonable or lacking in logic.
Bare minimum would be F/18, and that’s BARE minimum. It would be optimal to release it at the same time as the Super Hornet it came out at about the same time as the Typhoon.
MiG-29K is competitive against the Hornets, the Super Hornets? Not sure I’m that confident. J-15 is entirely a different (albeit very similar plane).
That’s enter the gaijin way of balancing things i guess :p
Wait till our eurocanards are all DoA xD
wow, that doesn’t sound that bad.
Like let me beat this point over the head with a really big stick.
THE HORNET WILL NOT BE A GOOD A2A JET, IT WILL BE MID AT BEST. because despite its funny 10 AMRAAM missile count, despite its funny radar… this plane is s l o w (relatively)… that matters for BVR…
Time means nothing. The J-8F is from the 2000s.
But also, how can’t you not like it? :o
Just look at that ~3min intro if you do’nt have time :p
So F-18Es, that is what 5 nations need to wait for in order to get any more aircraft in their TT
the U.S. is fine with what they currently have, push come to shove just buff the 15C. The problem is that Gaijin doesn’t want the F/A-18 to be redundant off rip (which it borderline already will be at this rate unless it gets a weapon no other plane gets)
and you need to understand that, they will put that plane above others because well… it’s gonna make them a lot of money. You can live without the Eurofighter for a few more updates and take pride in the fact that when it does come, it is gonna be really good.
If I can make the F-4F ICE work against F-15Cs with its flight model and lack of HMD, people can make the F/A-18C work against early Typhoons.
Most Fox 3 missiles are underperforming in terms of range, like MICA, AAM-4, PL-12, etc.
Something like PL-12 is at least on par, if not superior to AIM-120A variant in range. But due to lack of information, Gaijin seems to have used export SD-10 data for PL-12 instead (SD-10 has a weaker motor).