Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I’d agree, but I’d pushback that we have faithful models with decent fidelity, and we can reasonably approximate RCS values from this, and that yes, the Su-57 has the worst RCS value of any fifth-gen fighter. We don’t have an exact knowledge. Not even the governments of Russia, China, or the West do.

But it certainly has helped doing DEAD missions well within range of Western ELINT assets and AD systems deployed, and has yet to lose a single aircraft to enemy fire.

My wager is they are overhauling how they do the event. F-117 would be perfect for the event, yet its becoming a squadron vehicle according to the leaks. I think they’re making it so that what previously would’ve been the big ticket vehicle is now the squadron vehicle to avoid what happened to the Sturmtiger where players can no longer get it, and then have the event vehicle be an interesting prototype.

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There’s no direct RCS value defining stealth btw as stealth is just a concept of lowered observability in many many aspects. As it stands anything using stealth technology or having stealth features can be considered stealth.

Pointless discussion tbh

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This is a good way of putting it.

Sidebar: The Su-57 is taking a page out of the F-22’s book. New Su-57’s will no longer have 3D TVC as the 2D TVC produces a much better IR signature. (And radar too apparently)

To be frank I very much doubt this, especially with how corruption-ridden the Russian military is, and their tendancy to… overstate, shall we say, their capabilities. The west tends to understate their capabilities, especially with their newer aircraft.

Russian aircraft, if modeled correctly, would likely be far behind their western counterparts in almost every way. Hell- do you really expect a nation operating T-54s and T-55s to be able to field a modern stealth aircraft, let alone one able to compete with the F-22 and F-35?

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True…

Please keep in mind that this is the RnR thread. It’s ok to discuss about stealth in the future as a remote possibility (your opinions, not mine), but it is not ok to go off-topic and enter these detailed discussions about specific aircraft and their use. I believe there are already other threads up for it and more can be created if needed.

Some posts also had to be taken down for… obvious reasons. Please let’s avoid topics that are clearly against the guidelines of the forums.

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Ahh, sorry about that. Likely should have thought before posting, wont happen again :>

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2 ground vehicles events back 2 back? I doubt it

Dream comes true event isnt in that event cycle so cant be counted 2 ground tanks back to back. so id really expect a tank this time with dreams comes true event

Did the last Dreams Come True event (TOG II) fit into the current event schedule?

(We didnt have these events then)

The victory day one was moved about so that it didnt have to be a ship, I suppose they could do the same with DCT event.

That was before the new event cycle was established.

It’s an intriguing idea, but why won’t Gaijin do this for Ariete MBT?

I wish they did :-/

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Yeah, or like how they made it so that all RWRs could detect all radars as the SPO-10 users were struggling vs PD radars but they never made it so that all RWRs could detect the Pantsir…

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I don’t know why. I hope/wish they would.

Same with adding DU to the turret cheeks of the M1 Abrams models that had it.

I have hope that they will at whatever pace it gets done. Just look at how much better the 2S38 is now. It’s still very good, but it’s balanced enough that it wasn’t the overpowered premium vehicle that it was. Same with damage models on all helicopters that was basically done to make the Ka-50/52 more squishy.

Q-5A and Q-5L finally have flares, and are pretty fairly placed at 9.3 and 10.3 respectively, yet both Su-7’s who have CCRP and CCRP/CCIP respectively have no flares and are still at 9.0 and 9.3. There’s no reason why either should be above 8.7 or 9.0 for BR in GRB respectively.

I wish they’d look into the A-4 further for GRB. For what it can get dragged into via the MM, it’s comical that it still exists in it’s configuration.

Gaijin giveth, Gaijin taketh away. That’s all I can really say at the end of the day.

Sidenote, major props to the devs for the minor QOL that has come from shifting some of the premiums out of 10.0 and into 10.3 etc. I really have enjoyed what 9.0/9.3 and 10.0 have become since (even if it’s at the cost of my dearly beloved 10.7).

Also, I’mma be real for a second

The state of germany top tier air is a disaster, and Gaijin hasn’t made any attempt to fudge the numbers, embellish or add subtree aircraft to help out.

If this is allowed to be, because “germany doesn’t have any planes sry” then why should it be different when it comes to Russia or other nations lacking 5th gen counterparts?

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Even with aim9, it would probably not be very effective in ARB.(depending on the missile) since it would have to get in a good position to fire the missile. And with it’s lackluster turning performance, (compared to a fighter)it would struggle to do so.