Su-25T and Su-39 are 11.7. I guess they could be moved to 12.7 and the Su-24M can be moved up to 11.7
It’s a sadly fault. one fault doesn’t mean another
the sm3 is 12.3 …
and, not my fault the soviets didnt report that last BR Change. They somehow got the second strongest 11.7 aircraft in Sim down to 11.3 , the Mig-23MLD, but failed to get the Su-25SM3 down to 11.7.
But that is no justificaiton for rendering a new aircraft DOA, out of just pure spite.
the Su-25T is 11.7 the Su-39 is 11.7 (mind you with R73s) the Su-25SM3 is 12.3, unless the Tornado gets ASRAAMs it wont be above 12.3
and with no 12.3 bracket, 12.3 = 12.7. So I really dont want it higher than 12.0. I really dont want to have to be dodging Mig-29s. Harrier Gr7 can barely cope.
we already know gaijin isnt gonna give britain a reasonable Air BR so honestly can just hope for a good ground br
We can hope at least.
Ground BR though is irrelevant, it will be 12.0 or higher and will face 13.7 CAP all the time and probably the Pantsir every match as well. In GRB we can just hope that Brimstones dont have a 1000 base SP cost or something stupid like that and that they arent a total buggy mess (heck, we have to hope it even gets them and the GR4 isnt just a carbon copy of the tornado Gr1 with Aim-9Ms as the only loadout difference)
true lol, I can already hear people complaining that its unfair that it gets the brimstones (cant wait for them to be modelled terribly and for them to barely work in game)
Im fully expecting them to just randomly self destruct for the first few months.
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I think it would be the best weapon against Pantsir, even better than KH-38, if not nerfed in a strange way.
I mean, even just IOG and Laser guidence can make it powerful enough.
It would, because it could actually overwhelm the Pantsir (unlike basically all our aircraft at the moment) , but is going to be extremely vulnerable to hostile CAP (and quite frankly. a hard counter to the Pantsir would actually give Britain some value at top tier)
easy, wont be more vulnerable than a SU-25SM3, isn’t it?
the Su25 can actually kinda turn which sure isnt a lot but still better then the tornado lol
True, though the Su-25s can tank hits quite well and often enjoy air superiority provided by the Pantsir. CAS will always be weaker than CAS, but just because the Tornado Gr4 has Brimstones, doesnt suddenly make it a capable dogfighter able to defend itself reliably, at least not without 2x ASRAAM.
We are also ignoring the elephant in the room that the soviets are probably getting a Super-sonic multirole fighter with KH-38s sooner rather than later. Probably something like the SU-34?
yeah the Su34 from what I have seen can carry KH38s but I think it only gets 2 of them compared to the 4 of the Su25SM3
Still, the added speed, agility and self defence would make it a potent aircraft, youd just need to RTB more often.
the only elephant is Pantsir I think. it’s the source of top air-ground balance chaos, even make US F-111F and AV-8NA to a too low br where they shouldn’t be.
only SU-34 can use KH-38 so far I think. But I hope the SU-34 in leak can be delayed, just give SU-27SM and MIG-29SMT their pod.
it should be added after most TT gets powerful enough SPAA.
Now it’s like US super powerful CAS VS USSR siper powerful SPAA. and the rest just suffering, balance is breaking
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Ground is compressed and as a result, so are the aircraft. Until
A) Top tier ground is decompressed
and
B) Every nation gets better SPAA
Then top tier will never be balanced. But I dont think that is the reason to deny Britain a new aircraft, especially considering there are euqal if not better aircraft, with still just as potent loadouts already in game.
(and especially as the Typhoon is always denied, the least we can get is our principle ground attack aircraft)
(and personally, i would be just as excited for upgrades like BOL, TERMA, FLIR and Litening III than just the Brimstones, which will be mitigated greatly)
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it’s more a spaa problem, compressed is another. decompressed won’t fix this, and may even make it worse.
the recent decompress, released F-111F and AV-8NA, now there is a chance that they won’t face Pantsir, and it’s almost a massacre for enemy.
edit: though this may help rebalance their br? so it may ends better
anyway decompress is always welcomed