Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I think people were confused, thinking I said I struggled playing the Pantsir, when all I’m pointing out is how easy it is for me to kill a pantsir lol, as long as you have a somewhat agile aircraft with a TP and AGMs, which unfortunately as I like playing Japan, we don’t have an aircraft like that.

The question is though, what about something like a Tornado?

Even the Gr1 with the PGMs, in that situatioin all 3 PGMs would be intercepted with ease and evading is no that easy. Even in the Harrier Gr7 with only 4x AGM–65s, i would be hard pressed to survive

I can’t speak on the Tornado, nor can I the Harrier. Although I think when dealing with a pantsir, the problem I would assume that both of those have is the low number of AGMs that can be sent out. At least until something like the Brimstone gets added where you can send out 5+ missiles at a time at a single pantsir to nearly guarantee you the kill.

PGMs I would be limited to only 3, and they are far slower than an AGM-65, meaning more time for intercept.

Gr7 is 4x AGM-65s. so better, but probably not enough to truly overwhelm. I think the better tactic in the Gr7 is to dive and use the low level handling to pop up from unexpected directions

Yeah, Gr4 and spamming 12+ Brimstones would probably be about enough to overwhelm a Pantsir, though again, only one would be needed for most other SPAA and that is the core problem

Personally I think having the PGMs coded as bombs rather than AGMs would help a lot, as (to my knowledge) bombs don’t get destroyed by SAMs

Yeah, taht would be a massive buff

Not the case anymore, they changed it last major update. Now bombs too can be shot out by proximity explosions (before it was only on direct hits, from guns for instance).

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I thought they changed some of the others like the ADATS and the FlakRakRad to be able to intercept missiles? I know the OTOMATIC I’ve been able to intercept pretty much everything from AGMs to even small Spike missiles

Issue with the OTOMATIC is while it’s able to intercept rather easily, it’s very difficult to shoot down jets now with all the newer systems.

I’ve not tried in the ADATS, but I doubt it.

Not really enough for a good Pantsir player. If you target 2 at the time you can get all 4 without them even coming close.

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but a Singular phased array antenna as PESA radars have is essentially just a fast refresh rate

thats modelled correctly

its the AESA on the ASRAD that’s modelled wrong because that should be an (unknown) amount of diffrent beams scanning all together on multiple frequencies in multiple directions
but it’s modelled like a faster PESA in sensor view

Will it be thermal like thermal thermal, or thermal like “high-contrast band-specific TV” thermal? If so, the Su-24M should get the same treatment that the Su-34 will get in that regard.

The Su-34 at present is exciting because it should be able to be even more untouchable than the Su-27SM or Su-24M are right now. Not that it’s needed at all…

Yeah. Its why we really need the Gr7s missing 2x AGM-65 mounts. Bring our count up to 6x AGM-65s.

Or add the Gr9A with 18x Brimstones. Either would do :P

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In channel-thermal/TV is important too. Only real limit is gimbal, which for bombs is more important, but not the biggest deal in the world.

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Anyone got any clues on the event vehicle and premium?
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probably something OP and something 10.0

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Something nice for my little line up lol