Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

I just cant understand people seeing these vehicles as something gamebreaking than anything else.

It only makes sense that all 3 nations get it. Gaijin would get a shitstorm if Russia got the 2nd strongest AA for now. All nations 10-12km and Russia 15km and 18km. Doesn’t make sense like that.

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Still surprised that there wasnt an Indian Osa in there for the UK too, “everyone gets a gecko!”.

Middle spot is free, remember?

Maybe it will come in later with a dev update. Remember the Israeli F16C, which was added with a dev Server update

Remember, Israel and Italy doesnt even have a proper top tier SAM system.

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simple its britain tax and india being a useless sub that is only there to cash out on copy past premiums

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I’m not back pedaling…

At the time of the Pantsir’s introduction

  • Update Sky Guardians
    Russia’s best CAS jet the Mig 27K had already been powercrept by the Harrier GR7 as the best Strike jet. The multirole F-16A’s introduced in Apex Predators an update prior (which were given to the U.S., China, Israel) were the best multirole jets in the game.

  • Sky Guardians released the Pantsir to make up for the fact the Tunguska couldn’t do anything to those planes. (reminder at the time the best CAS aircraft in the game at this time were owned by Israel, America, Britain)

  • La Royale 1 update later introduced the Mirage 2000-5F and the PGM bombs granting France the best Multirole jet for a short time period)

  • Sons of Atilla (2 updates after Sky Guardians) Introduced the F-16C, AV-8b Plus (italy) meaning even more nations had access to better CAS than Russia could field, and by this point all but Sweden/Germany/Italy had better multi-role jets than Russia did. Not to mention the FM of the Mig 29s was beaten with a stick meaning that despite having the best Fox 1 in the game for a while, that’s all they had going for them

  • Kings of Battle didn’t change anything

  • Air Superiority and Alpha Strike. These two updates essentially cemented the fact that every nation had Russia beat for multirole except Germany.

Lastly Seek & Destroy gave Russia a better Multirole jet than what Germany and Japan had access to, but still left them far behind the other 7 nations in the game.

So yeah… I didn’t backpedal on my point, nor was my point wrong. Russia traded Air Power for Anti-Air power. The only relevant aircraft they have being the Su-25SM3 which cannot defend itself from enemy aircraft reliably.

Now as for the main topic of the AA Gap: I don’t think the other best AA’s are struggling. The Ito’s are great still, and Flak bus while worse than the others is still decent. The ADATS is now in the same boat the Tunguska was pre-pantsir. But the main nations I worry for are all the nations stuck with 6km range Stinger AA or god forbid Italy using a glorified 2S38 as their AA vehicle against jets that reliably out range most of the AA in the game.

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That’s not what I’ve been seeing unless I haven’t scrolled enough. I see people happy to see something iconic and more than enough bemoaning it’s not meta defining. It’s a fantastic plane to add as an obvious leadup to more capable stealth aircraft.

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this update we have luck

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Winter major update

I guess might F/A-18A or F/A-18D Early (USN) 1980’s for USA tech tree. and CF-18A (RCAF) or F/A-18A (RAAF) in 80’s for british tech tree

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Put US mains cry on there too

I cant escape don quixote.

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Benelux air tree was added

I love her lol great canto so far cant wait till next Wednesday

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Better wait another week than rush for release 👌
Plenty of content to stay busy.

Same brother kim ji hoon writing peak fiction yet again.

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KA 50/KA 52 way stronger dominating way more in CAS

oh yeah fear the chionese and japan f-16s without targeting pod will ya

bad additition by gajin, should have added the Tor M1 that china got as well and focused on actualy fixing it

ohhh no, a minor nation got a good aircraft, not like germany still doesnt have a competent multirole

lemme cry for you once i have the time, russia still had strong aircraft and the tor m1 would have worked just as well , the pantsir 1 still is overkill

go ahead and tell me which relevant multirole fighters china had until the J10 last patch
The mig29 smt still worked good as a multirole fighter with access to multiple stand off missles, there was the su 39 with giant armament loadout etc

pantsir was not /is not necesary , tor m1 would have worked just as much.
japan has worse CAS only a type 81c without radar
italy the best was av8b+ bad airframe as well and not spaa to name
and so on and on

ussr was entitled with the pantsir which turned it to russia wins trough air dominance because nobody was allowed to spawn air for multiple updates

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Same as the previous 10 nations but they still get more aircraft

I’m gonna stop this argument here because you don’t even bring points up you just rage.

If you think the KA 50/52 compare to a jet for CAS power… you’re ignorant.

also the Su-39/25T were both ass. Massive payloads yes, devastating if you allow them to be yes, but they literally cannot exist around AA or enemy Air Power. 2 things the Harriers actually could do until Fox 3s

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