Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Asraam is one of my favourite ir missiles so I’m very hyped for it to come, other ir missile is p4/5 that I’m very excited for

i hope Py4 doesn’t come for some time, it’s going to be nasty with that insane turn rate with no TVC

GR.4 with ASRAAM and Brimstones…yes please!

The R-73 can already pull some pretty crazy G’s, so it wouldn’t be as much better than we already have as some make it out to.

Technically we have a variant of it, the derby missile is based on p4 trading longer range for manouverbility. Right now I rarely use ir missiles since intend to do BVR engagements at like 40km in air rb

Make it 13.7 with asraam idc, as long as I have asraam I’ll be happy

the R-73 pulls those crazy Gs at a cost of having poor energy retention due to the TVC, Py4 has none of that, so it will pull 40-70Gs and retain its speed during that

That, the ASSTA3.1, and A200C (or whatever it’s called) would be great as early ASRAAM and IRIS-T carriers.

I reckon gaijing is gonna test better ir missiles with the upcoming strike jets

That’s not a massive jump from what we have, though, especially since BVR is the meta currently.

Considering that the F-15E is barely inferior to the C for A2A, I doubt it. The Su-34 I could see having R-73Ms, but I’m not expecting AIM-9X bl 1’s until at least late next year, though maybe even 2026.

Late block 15Es will have incredible radar though. That will make them pretty suitable for BVR meta.

Aim9x block 1 I reckon will come sooner than later imo, it’s more of a in-between generation missile and mica or will be superior. Has no optical imaging or loal. Duel band irccm and high manouverbility, so I think it could come within the next few updates. Block 2/3 is when aim9x gets crazy

Yep, and when we eventually get the EX, it’ll be a wall of AIM-120D’s and AIM-260’s.

Even older strike eagles will probably have one of the strongest radars in game

The flight performance of the bl 1 isn’t anything special when compared with the IRIS-T and the like, however its IRCCM still sets it apart by quite a bit from what we have now.

EX’s fly-by-wire also allows the Eagle to pull a lot more AOA in maneuvers. Just look at F-15QA demo and EX has the same avionics system as QA iirc.

Mica ir I believe should have optical imaging which would give it superior tracking to aim9x block 1

I’ve seen f15qa fly, it made f16 a look like a bus

The MICA-IR will definitely be better with its range, however the Mirage 2000D RMV is much worse than the F-15E for A2A, so it getting MICA-IRs wouldn’t be nearly as large a leap as the F-15E getting 9X’s.

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