Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

after the dev stream

the only unbalanced thing is pantsir. SU-25SM3 is op because it won’t meet pantsir, KH-38 is fast, about 60% faster than AGM-65, but still can’t be a good reason for a 12.7 SU-25, same as F-16C.

F-18C with agm-65g can be a fine 12.7 CAS. Air-SPAA balance is breaking, and before everyone gets better SPAA, there shouldn’t be more powerful CAS planes.

cant wait for the Kub or Buk to be added before we get any kind of medium range sams for anyone else

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Said that the USSR is a beer keg = fan of the USA

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For me, Su-25SM3 is much better than F-16C in terms of ground annihilation. 4x fastest ATG missiles + cover from strongest SPAA.

but it isn’t because SU-25SM3 being op, but pantsir can easily disturb F-16‘s attack. after the remodel of agm-65, F-16C can easily annihilate the enemy with up to 8 shots and high mobility, and slap any enemy plane with aim-120.
not to say F111F with 8 shot of IR F&F and supersonic speed, in a br where others just have TV F&F and laser AGM/LGBs

do you know when that is?

Haha, no. Pantsir can easily shot down both F-16C and missiles it’s released from 3-4km.

Dunno about adding another battleship to Germany though… I know the Derfflinger was rank V, but they still got a BB last patch and it’s not like they’re the one who need it most. Not to say it’s not gonna happen, but Gaijin may already consider the Derfflinger as an addition. Or the Gneisenau will be added. Dunno.

In any case, eager to see what’s gonna be added.

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Yep, Smin only confirmed Britain and France I think. Maybe Italy, cant recall, but fairly certain he said nothing of Germany

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Nope was wrong:

Did say every nation. So US and Japan got one last update. I guess that means everyone else this update?

Though Im really hoping they dont make all the new ships redundant by leaping frogging Germany ahead again and its Britain, France and Italy that need the most. All 3 could do with 2 just to be put back onto parity with other nations in Rank VI

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I’ve said Pantsir is the best, making other TT’s CAS underperforming.
meanwhile, it’s the best because it’s long range and non-warning lock. 3-4km is too exaggerated, in this range players have no time to reaction, can only choose between the plane or the missile, and possibly only 1 shot chance. and it’s missile is not so good in mobility in close range, F16 can easily avoid it by pulling hard, if in 8km, VT-1 missile is all way better than pantsir’s missile.
but the problem is, IR F&F have a 12+km lock ability, so VT-1 or other SPAA can’t reach them, only pantsir, and non-warning lock make it hard to avoid

USSR got one aswell, the Izmail.
For GE i think it could be just a Mackensen or maybe a König. would be surprised if its Gneisenau. The only escalation would be the Bismarck, which i doubt.

more intersting is wether or not HMS Barham counts as the Rank VI addition for the UK, which i hope not

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I dont think it can, if it did, then that would suck. Not only because once again, our naval tree is P2P unlike other nations F2P line-ups, but that we have a 1916 ship vs WW2 variants

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A-7E never mounted AGM-84E SLAM but armed AGM-45B Shrike and AGM-88A HARM

USN operated F/A-18A & F/A-18C/D early 1980’s and A-6E SWIP (USMC) mounted AGM-84E

isnt the 9M123M (and therefore the VM too because thats just the heli version) aclos. coz if it is gaijin seems to not have modeled it

yeah i dont think they are gonna add anti-radiation missiles any time soon lmao

All I’ll say in terms of India is that India is a Subtree like Norway is a Subtree:
They’re both only Premiums/Packs, Event Vehicles, and Squadron Vehicles.

So I get where both sides are coming from, but Australia and Canada provide more TT vehicles than India has, and India has 0 TT vehicles.

So despite them saying Canada goes wherever, Canada and Australia are more TT Subtree worthy than India has been

Look at the TT boats, ships, tanks, and planes that the 2 nations have provided.

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It did carry 84As, which makes it compatible with the E for carriage
As for guiding it, it was one of the planes necessary for it during gulf war . (With DL pod)
That makes it a near perfect platform for it

It’s not the A-7E. It’s the F-18C horny.