I want the OG OG Hurtgen back where one team spawned on top of the hill and the other spawned behind the city
You’re partly mistaken. Richelieu was indeed damaged at Dakar but quickly repaired, then after Dakar became a Free French port, it sailed to America where it was overhauled. Jean bart managed to flee Saint Nazaire to rally Casablanca in 1940 while it was finished at 50% (The workers worked day and night for two week to make it sea worthy, and it escaped mere hours before its dockyard was taken by the Germans. Its escape is quite fascinating.) After that, it remained at anchor in Cassablanca, where it fought the US/English fleet during operation Torch with its only working turret (The famous duel with the USS Massachussets). It was heavily damaged by US shelling, but since it was half finished and mostly empty of ammunition, all of it was repairable. It remained anchored at Cassablanca during the remainder of the war, giving some of its equipment to the Richelieu. It was only after the war that it came back to France, where the French navy, after wondering if they had to transform it into an aircraft carrier or a hybrid, decided to complete the Jean Bart with an enhanced AA artillery. Which was done in successive steps in 1947, 1949 and finally 1951, when Jean Bart officially entered service.
During Mers el Kebir, Bretagne was sunk, Dunkerque and Mogador were crippled and Provence was damaged. A logistic ship was also destroyed in an explosion I believe. All other ships, Strasbourg and its 5 or 6 destroyer escorts, managed to escape unscathed.
When it comes to Alsace, I’m not sure we’ll ever see it, except if Gaijin changes its rules. It was never laid down and its design was barely finalised, so it’s not likely. Even less than the British G3 or the German H class, which are borderline acceptable because some dude worked on a piece of metal for 2 weeks before the project was shut down. I don’t know about the Littorio UP41, but I’m willing to bet it’s a Littorio with 16 inch guns ? If that’s the case, I don’t think we’ll see any of that either, except again if Gaijin decides to change rules. Thing is, they only bent rules so as to be able to complete the Soviet navy with the Kron and down the line, obviously, with the Sovetsky Soyuz class, since their construction was quite advanced when they were abandonned… which is not the case for either French or Italian projects.
Ultimately, it’s Gaijin’s choice. We’re not above seing some changes down the line but… Not sure they will.
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In-game, the F-111 is not a multi role aircraft, it’s only good at A2G you cannot reliably do A2A with it, even in real life it had trouble doing so as we have seen when the navy tried to use it.
The F-15E is no bomber, even if it is used as one it makes more sense for it to be placed after the AV-8B since it’s a multi role strike aircraft not a bomber, this line has always been used for CAS/Strike aircraft i don’t see why suddenly those types of aircrafts should come in the bomber line. Except if they do actually transform the bomber line in a “Heavy strike fighter” line, I guess this is what gets you to think that the Strike Eagle might be placed there, in that case i don’t know and nothing can really confirm this to us before the official F-15E announcement.
If it is placed there tho, I think it’s pretty clear what gaijin intends for the future of the bomber line, and that Heavy bombers definitely won’t come in the near future at all.
I do hope you’re right tho and gaijin understands that the F-15E is a sidegrade of the F-15C and won’t be placed after the latter.
am want now lol
I don’t think. And even if it was possible, at wich BR you would put that thing? xD
That’s why i’m really sad for the actual pity state of the French costal. Lot of options, but only the most boring and blank one (except ~2) for now. (Also damn, the 4 similar starting ship with only one MG… Good job Gaijin to make TT interesting huh)
But still can’t wait next update for grinding them and be ready, have played 2/3 games at best but it’s locked so useless for now to play them. (it’s open on the next update right? Not later?)
Also hope next update bring more coastal, they better not leave us with that bone TT.
I dont even want to go thru “F-15E after AV-8B+” so let me say that Harrier line was always about light strike aircraft.
Also allow me to remind you that strike oriented MiG-27 wasnt added under regular MiG-23. Same when you look at France with their Mirage F1C/CT and Mirage 2000C/D or Israel with their F-16C/D.
F-15s were never meant to be multirole like F-16s or F-111s and that should (and most likely will) be represented with F-15E going after F-111F.
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Also if you want to see some future possibility for the French costal (if Gaijin wake up):
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Gotta give me that definition of light because one could argue that the F-15E is light too, at least compared to the F-111F, F-111A and perhaps even the F-105D, none of which are multirole in the game btw.
Thankfully so, i don’t want the F-15E to be placed after the F-15C.
You’re right, they were never meant to be multi role, neither were they meant to be bombers.
The only reason they would place the F-15E after the F-111F is if they want to transform the bomber line into an “Heavy” strike fighter line, and even then we first need to define what qualifies as heavy or not. Somehow a Multi role strike aircraft should come in a dedicated A2G, “Bomber” line.
Now since the AV-8B line as always been the CAS/Strike aircraft line, for now, the Strike Eagle will most likely be placed after the Harrier II. But really for now we can’t really know, we both have different views of the so called bomber line, I agree that if it becomes the “Heavy” Multi role Strike fighter line then the F-15E should be placed there, for now tho it’s a bomber line.
Out of curiosity. If Israel was to get a version of the F-15I line, do you think it’ll be placed in the Baz or F-16D line?
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I wouldn’t expect either this year.
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I think they would folder the Meshupar and put the I after the Baz but if that fails then I can see it being after the F-16D
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Hope lost for a teaser today :(
So Thursday as usual, most likely.
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Dont give up hope yet!
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Bomber line was always a bomber line and F-15E is a bomber…
B-57 served as one, F-105 served as one, F-111 served as one and F-15E serves as one
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The F15E is a weird one depending on whats needed it can fit in both places in the TT BUT I do think it fits better as a “bomber”
Aslo the F15E fills the exact same role as the Tornado and its considered a bomber sooo
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What?? Absolutely not, even if it is used as such it is a strike aircraft from start to finish.
B-57 is a Bomber, F-105 is a Supersonic bomber, same goes for the F-111. Even if they place it in the bomber line it would still not be a bomber, just a strike aircraft…
The way I see it the F15E replaced the F111 so it goes after the F111
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When you hear strike eagle though, it tends to lean to strike aircraft, hope I’m wrong though
Just because it is bad at A2A combat does not undesignate it as a multirole fighter. It’s an F-111, not a B-111.
The F-15 isn’t a bomber, no, but neither is the F-111. The line hasn’t had a bomber since the B-57, and Gaijin has given no indication that will change any time soon. It has since become a heavy strike aircraft line, and the whole point of the F-15E is to replace older strike aircraft in inventory. There are, to my knowledge, no further options for heavy strike aircraft for the US besides the F-15E. Only other lane that it could be added into is the light strike fighter line, but I expect that to be where Marine Corp aircraft will be placed.
Shame. Assuming it could though, that would depend on the missile. No lower then the Sea Vixen though.
It already has been. There haven’t been any proper bombers in that line since the B-57.
Only one of those is a bomber, the B-57. The rest are strike aircraft.
After F-16D or (what is more likely) F-15C. F-16D line seems like dedicated to 2 seater light fighters in modern era while F-16C line is dedicated to single seat light fighters. F-15C line is clearly about heavy air superiority fighters.
I expect F-16I to come after F-16D and F-15I after F-15C because of what I mentioned above but also because in IAF all F-15 variants run A2G and A2A missions. F-15I only improves that with targeting pods and added dedicated A2G capabilites.
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