Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

the Su25 can actually kinda turn which sure isnt a lot but still better then the tornado lol

True, though the Su-25s can tank hits quite well and often enjoy air superiority provided by the Pantsir. CAS will always be weaker than CAS, but just because the Tornado Gr4 has Brimstones, doesnt suddenly make it a capable dogfighter able to defend itself reliably, at least not without 2x ASRAAM.

We are also ignoring the elephant in the room that the soviets are probably getting a Super-sonic multirole fighter with KH-38s sooner rather than later. Probably something like the SU-34?

yeah the Su34 from what I have seen can carry KH38s but I think it only gets 2 of them compared to the 4 of the Su25SM3

Still, the added speed, agility and self defence would make it a potent aircraft, youd just need to RTB more often.

the only elephant is Pantsir I think. it’s the source of top air-ground balance chaos, even make US F-111F and AV-8NA to a too low br where they shouldn’t be.

only SU-34 can use KH-38 so far I think. But I hope the SU-34 in leak can be delayed, just give SU-27SM and MIG-29SMT their pod.
it should be added after most TT gets powerful enough SPAA.

Now it’s like US super powerful CAS VS USSR siper powerful SPAA. and the rest just suffering, balance is breaking

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Ground is compressed and as a result, so are the aircraft. Until

A) Top tier ground is decompressed
and
B) Every nation gets better SPAA

Then top tier will never be balanced. But I dont think that is the reason to deny Britain a new aircraft, especially considering there are euqal if not better aircraft, with still just as potent loadouts already in game.

(and especially as the Typhoon is always denied, the least we can get is our principle ground attack aircraft)

(and personally, i would be just as excited for upgrades like BOL, TERMA, FLIR and Litening III than just the Brimstones, which will be mitigated greatly)

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it’s more a spaa problem, compressed is another. decompressed won’t fix this, and may even make it worse.
the recent decompress, released F-111F and AV-8NA, now there is a chance that they won’t face Pantsir, and it’s almost a massacre for enemy.

edit: though this may help rebalance their br? so it may ends better
anyway decompress is always welcomed

So uh, according to the VERY fake leaklists, three nations are getting the OSA BM3.
Will that be superior to the FlaRakRad/Tor-M though? I mean, the range is supposed to be better right?

I don’t think so, 15km is just self destruct range, it should already loose it’s speed and mobility
and it’s much slower than VT-1

Well hopefully it does at the very least guide better then.
( Though it’s still a massive step up for italy)

All share similar guidence logic, though it’s booster should last longer and the range with mobility should be good

Should I buy 75% off M18 Black Cat?

I have a feeling that Gaijin will just smack JHMCS on the F-15E, so it would be a 2010+ version. I guess it’s not impossible for Gaijin to introduce a 13.7 without HMS, though I think it would be the first one. Plenty of 13.3s without though, which isn’t too far off.

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we could get a ton of great a2g weapons then, would be quite nice

Yea, but that’s the problem. Gaijin will probably ignore all that. JHMCS will probably be added simply only to even the balance, but I would like to be suprised. Especially with the potential SEAD mode, I think Gaijin can really go all loose with A2G munitions.

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dont worrz it might com in december. its more fitting for a december update. so switch out that copium for some hopium

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Ah, you right but equipped AN/AAQ-28 Litening II targeting pod in 2003 ~ early 2004

Spoiler

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but retain LANTIRN AN/AAQ-13 navigation pod like F-15E in the desert storm

From the Iraqi freedom but before integraded AIM-9X Sidewinder and Joint Helmet-Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS)

F-15E in 2003 drop GBU-31(V)1/B only

Rockwell GBU-15 another variant but newer and better GBU-15(V)1/B & GBU-15(V)2/B

Spoiler
  • GBU-15(V)31/B
  • GBU-15(V)32/B
  • GBU-15(V)1C/B
  • GBU-15(V)2C/B

Boeing (Rockwell) AGM-130. my guess

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Hey guys, if there are no Chinese planes in the leaked picture, does that mean there are no Chinese aircraft updates for this version?

No. Leaks rarely contain even 2/3 of the additions. The reliable leak list that I’m personally trusting has only a handful of vehicles on it

That being said. October updates have been historically light on aircraft and with the last few updates being quite heavily air focused, I could see ground getting the majority of additions along with a few good naval additions.

Last year that was the F111A, JH-7A and Mig-29G. That was it for aircraft.

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Two now, Hodor 7 Years old (in the back) and Dexter 6 Months old (in the front).
I’d love some decals for them haha.

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