Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

in addition to the type81 being practically useless against helicopters since everyone has missiles that reach longer than the type81, and there is IRCM to make things even worse

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Su-34 has no IR system

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Then Gaijin should buff the 93 and 81 as opposed to trying to make really questionable connections. Last I checked, Vietnam is questionable at best as to it’s ‘alignment’ with the west, and Myanmar is, from what I understand is aligned with China, not the west, so it wouldn’t make sense for Japan to get them.

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If you had been active on this thread, you would have seen that the majority of us aren’t happy that, instead of fixing the Leclercs, Gaijin decided to add three copy-paste Leopards and call it a day.

Besides, you can’t compare some copy-paste 2A5 and 2A6 to the actually unique Leopard 2SG.

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ok then, I’ll ask the gaijin to buff it by giving missiles that never existed to see if they become competitive and myammar has more ties with NATO and Russia than China since a huge part of its equipment comes from them

mainly reason for asking Japan for ASEAN in general because the nation has stagnated both in air and land with very few options to come (modern in this case), because with the arrival of ASEAN it opens up a gigantic range of new possibilities of even unique versions of vehicles that It doesn’t exist in other nations. China is very well served and has a good range of vehicles to come, China’s current problem is that gaijin launched Chinese vehicles, all poorly done and with grotesque errors (like most nations), gaijin correcting these problems makes China return to being a competitive nation

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Japan has basically funded half the Myanmar military up until the coup. Just because they aren’t US aligned doesn’t mean they can’t favor Japan more than China. Take Thailand that is more aligned with China than the US, but still regularly ranks Japan favorably above both in most metrics.
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Type 93 is a normal manpad carrier, same as others, and has a little more advantage in locking helis, because the optical mode. all manpad carrier needs some tricks to use, like don’t attacks targets from the front.

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Problem is when will this be done,I hope it won’t be 10years later.

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That just is untrue

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I don’t disagree with what you are saying, but CN tree being fixed will take a miracle. CN players wouldn’t ask for subtrees if they weren’t mad about it.

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The thing with the errors in say Type 99A, is that they’re similar to the errors in Leopard 2A7V or M1A2.
Do they negatively impact performance in ground RB [not sim]? A little, yeah.
Do they harm the performance of a player that uses the survivability onion? No, Type 99A is still one of the best tanks in the game where it’s only real flaw is its reload speed… which is mitigated by its reverse speed/general mobility which makes the Type-99A great for closer ranges.
No, it’s not 5.3 seconds of expert crewed Abrams/Ariete.
It’s still a well armored tank, still fires a good round.

Of course, like with all tanks in War Thunder, the Type 99A should have its issues fixed.
It’s just not as bad as Leclerc’s bugs/confirmed issues. Even Ariete has less bugs/confirmed issues than Leclerc…

What’s annoying and funny is that Gaijin gave the incorrect internal fuel amount to J-10, fixed it, then broke it again recently.

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It could theoretically use the Kh-38 for thermals.

I cannot agree about that.Armor:Here is a picture which shows the armor weak point clearly.Just don’t be silly and u can disable it in one shot like any other NATO tanks.


Fire power: 7.1s reload + 577mm pen.only better than T90M, worse than any other 12.0BR MBTs.
Mobility, yes. Its one and only advantage, but gaijin is currently blocking sniper points you know?

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as I mentioned, a pilot interview mentioned this.

I cannot agree about armor as well. 99A got its “model fixed” but they massively nerfed UFP protection, now without ERA it is T-72B standard, which is simply untrue.

Not to mention the lower turret cheek area was also nerfed recently, now the turret ring is comparable to Abrams, it is easily penetrated and can be killed.

At least with T-90M you have spall liner. Oh, 99A is also missing spall liner, which is also supposed to be present in modern Chinese ground vehicles.

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if this become true, ITS NOT FAIR! russia get another nice jet, FRANCE!!! get another mirage also many leopards, while germany suffering from lack of good jets! at least add the f-5e :/

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germany doesnt have a jet which is able to carry more than two guided air to ground missiles, that suks
germany doesnt have a modern jet with fox-3 (thanks god german government turned that old phantom to a jet with fox-3, otherwise i dont know if germnay still had a jet with fox-3 in the game or not lol)

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yeah that wont change until maybe the EFT and even then I dont think the early variant had guided weapons like brimstones

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No man, you just need to get them to make the missiles it currently has better.

What NATO ties? From what I’ve seen, the nation has sourced its arms from Russia and China

Given the current situation in Myanmar, I just can’t see the connection for it. It would be a different story if the military coup failed, and the nation continued making connections with Japan, but that unfortunately didn’t happen.

As for Thailand, the main rationale for it being a Japanese subtree doesn’t lie in modern relations. It’s because they were allies during the Second World War that gives a Thai subtree justification. If we go simply off of one nation’s population simply like another nation’s population as justification for a subtree, you could easily justify a Mexico, Brazilian or Turkic subtree for Japan.

That doesn’t mean that we should throw logic out the window when it comes to subtrees. While I get that Japan is short on possible subtrees, there should still be some connection to justify it. Idgaf about China, my only real concern is putting subtrees into nations that make sense for them to be in, and all of ASEAN just doesn’t make sense for Japan in my opinion. Indonesia and Singapore are already big stretches. Nations like Vietnam, or Myanmar don’t have a strong enough connection to Japan for me to think they’re valid for a Japanese subtree, and if you want to start arguing for them on the basis of gameplay, you might as well go with Brazil or Turkey as subtrees.

I believe Argentina could solve that issue in the simplest of ways but they instead announced Switzerland and gave us two jets, none of which are advanced enough

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