Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

India under Britain is the #1 mistake

I disagree, the South African tech tree is the standard of what a subtree SHOULD be, comprised entirely of indigenous designs, and even a very copy paste subtree has their places, such as Japan. The problem is, Gaijin has just been using them to buff nations, which is not why people like sub trees.

I only disagree in the sense that the Viljante does make sense in the BR tt.

The T-80 should have gone to Russia though.

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They are the definition of “Good idea in theory, bad in practice”.

And unless it is completely redone from the start and done differently, it will never be good.

All of them are bad even South African.

Gaijin : now we want to add ASEAN for China

Su-35 basic (Su-27M) Air-to-Air armament like MiG-29S (9.12S & 9.13S), MiG-29SMT (9.17) and Su-27SM. my guess

As I mentioned above, we spesifically picked different versions to that the US event ones didn’t collide with others available for research in the Israeli tree. So we don’t plan to add the same Merkava 3D that’s in the US tree.

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wacky that china is getting leopard 2s before the uk, which is just insane since there are no nations aligned with china that use the leopard 2, I wonder why out of every nation china could get they got a sub tree of a nation that absolutely hates them

It would use essentially the same armament as the SU-27SM

What about Bismarck?
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So, just an honest question for British mains.
What vehicle do you NOT claim ? That’d make things easier for us to understand

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just to recap, purely looking at Singapore and Indonesia, not ASEAN as a whole, China will potentially get all these vehicles:

ground

  • (ID) Leopard 2A4+
  • (SG/ID) Leopard 2RI/SG

aircraft

  • (SG) F-15E SG
  • (ID) F-15EX Eagle II IDN
  • (ID) F-16AM Falcon Star
  • (ID) F-16C Block 52ID
  • (SG) F-16D+
  • (SG) F-35
  • (ID) Rafale F4
  • (ID) Korean T-50
  • (ID) Korean KF-21
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anything french :P

You bet. They already claimed Jordanian Leclerc

Has never been confirmed to have actually been purchased by Singapore. There are no pictures of it either.

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Singaporean F22???

Fun fact, no 1 person speaks for everyone, so it isnt that all Brit mains claim all things ;)

Personally I do not want any leopards in the UK TT, I just hoped for vehicles like Lynx, Ram and another heavy car I forget the name of to come to the UK from Canada. Also the later on Cougar would be neat.

That is a massive ouch

whoops, accidentally added some wrong ones there

Wolf?

That be the 1.